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    Trade Idea with Colorado

    What about this trade idea with Colorado?

    Reds trade- Freddy Galvis, Nick Senzel, Jonathon India, Jose Gutierrez

    Rockies trade- Trevor Story, Bryan Shaw(11 million remaining on contract) and Nico Decolati(A) OF #21 prospect

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    I've been saying for awhile now that Trevor Story was a worthy trade target. It'll probably take TySteve to get him though. And I doubt the Reds would have to give up Senzel.

    This is virtually an even trade on that trade site:

    CIN gets:
    SS Story

    COL gets:
    3b India
    CA Stephenson
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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    I've been saying for awhile now that Trevor Story was a worthy trade target. It'll probably take TySteve to get him though. And I doubt the Reds would have to give up Senzel.

    This is virtually an even trade on that trade site:

    CIN gets:
    SS Story

    COL gets:
    3b India
    CA Stephenson
    This brings up a value question for the Reds. Who will be worth more to them over the next half decade, Senzel or Stephenson? I could really see an argument for either. I think Senzel will produce better overall numbers as long as he's healthy. Stephenson plays the premium position, but how much stock do you put in his latest season?

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    1,000 times out of 1,000 would I rather trade Stephenson for Story than Senzel for Lindor.

    It’s not even remotely close for me.

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

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    1,000 times out of 1,000 would I rather trade Stephenson for Story than Senzel for Lindor.

    It’s not even remotely close for me.
    Even when you factor in that Senzel is mostly a robot now?
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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by [deleted] View Post
    1,000 times out of 1,000 would I rather trade Stephenson for Story than Senzel for Lindor.

    It’s not even remotely close for me.
    I wouldn't have much of a problem trading Ty Stephenson for Trevor Story. One thing about Story that bothers me is that he strikes out a lot. Other than that, I'd make the move. But, if it would help the Reds win a WS I'd trade Senzel for Lindor in a second.

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Story had extreme home/road splits.

    Look at these slugging percentages:

    Home: .630
    Away: .443

    OPS:

    Home: .998
    Away: .756

    Kinda terrifying
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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Story had extreme home/road splits.

    Look at these slugging percentages:

    Home: .630
    Away: .443

    OPS:

    Home: .998
    Away: .756

    Kinda terrifying
    I thought that at first, too. But it should be said that if you put the Reds in the NL West and take out Rockies, the Reds home/away splits in general might be similar playing at GABP. Those NLW ballparks are pretty rough on players. And a .756 away split on OPS still isn’t bad for a SS, and still .75 higher than Galvis’s career numbers.

    Also, he still hit 11HR in 71 games on the road in those ballparks. He has legit power.

    I’d give up Winker for him. Maybe do the Stephenson trade that’s been floated on here.

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioRiverBarge View Post
    I thought that at first, too. But it should be said that if you put the Reds in the NL West and take out Rockies, the Reds home/away splits in general might be similar playing at GABP. Those NLW ballparks are pretty rough on players. And a .756 away split on OPS still isn’t bad for a SS, and still .75 higher than Galvis’s career numbers.

    Also, he still hit 11HR in 71 games on the road in those ballparks. He has legit power.

    I’d give up Winker for him. Maybe do the Stephenson trade that’s been floated on here.
    And also as noted here before, it’s hard to name the last Rockies hitter who left Coors and didn’t have their splits even out.

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by OhioRiverBarge View Post
    I thought that at first, too. But it should be said that if you put the Reds in the NL West and take out Rockies, the Reds home/away splits in general might be similar playing at GABP. Those NLW ballparks are pretty rough on players. And a .756 away split on OPS still isn’t bad for a SS, and still .75 higher than Galvis’s career numbers.

    Also, he still hit 11HR in 71 games on the road in those ballparks. He has legit power.

    I’d give up Winker for him. Maybe do the Stephenson trade that’s been floated on here.
    Story didn’t play 71 games on the road last year in “spacious” NL west ballparks because teams only play about 76 total games against their own division each year, so it would be about 36-38 games in those parks.
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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    How about this one:

    Colorado gets Winker and Tyler Stephenson.
    Reds get Story, Wade Davis, and $8.5 million.

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by Alpha Zero View Post
    How about this one:

    Colorado gets Winker and Tyler Stephenson.
    Reds get Story, Wade Davis, and $8.5 million.
    Resulting in a position player roster of:

    1b Votto
    2b Moustakas
    SS Story
    3b Saurez
    LF Senzel
    CF Shogo
    RF Aquino
    CA Barnhart

    OF Ervin
    OF Jankowski
    UT Farmer
    IF Galvis
    CA Casali

    I like it. The cherry on top would be Castellanos instead of Aquino in RF but doubtful that would happen.
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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Something about Tyler Stephenson makes me want to keep him long term and if I'm completely wrong and he turns into a complete bust then well...I would have been wrong for the first time in the past 12 1/2 seconds..maybe 12 3/8ths of a second.. My second hand is hard to read..

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    I know the Rockies are starving for a catcher, but I suppose it is worth asking. Is Stephenson an attractive enough of a target that the Rockies would be interested in making a deal?

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    Re: Trade Idea with Colorado

    Quote Originally Posted by reds77 View Post
    I know the Rockies are starving for a catcher, but I suppose it is worth asking. Is Stephenson an attractive enough of a target that the Rockies would be interested in making a deal?
    I imagine it all depends what they decide to do with Arenado.


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