MLB could contract them. That would be the ultimate penalty.
MLB could contract them. That would be the ultimate penalty.
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REDREAD (01-13-2020)
REDREAD (01-13-2020)
"Discipline for Red Sox manager Alex Cora is coming and is going to be harsh, sources told ESPN."
Sounding more and more like Cora was the mastermind behind the plan. Could be the reason Hinch and Luhnow only got 1 year.
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DocRed (01-13-2020),dreghorntwo (01-13-2020)
Is Cora going to get permabanned?
DocRed (01-13-2020)
DocRed (01-13-2020),dreghorntwo (01-13-2020),Old school 1983 (01-14-2020),REDREAD (01-13-2020)
Wow Cora is screwed. MLB network says investigation showed Cora was the the mastermind in the scheme.
“Cora was involved in developing both the banging scheme and utilizing the replay review room to decode and transmit signs.” The league also said Cora “participated in both schemes, and through his active participation, implicitly condoned the players’ conduct.”
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/statu...htmode%3Dfalse
Last edited by DocRed; 01-13-2020 at 02:35 PM.
REDREAD (01-13-2020)
I think this is a fairly significant penalty, however, part of me wonders if a Landis style lifetime ban would have been more appropriate.
Sometimes you have to drop the hammer down so hard that it serves as a "forever deterrent" for another team to even think about orchestrating a similar scheme.
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Old school 1983 (01-14-2020),REDREAD (01-13-2020),RedsfaninMT (01-13-2020)
How do you prove a player benefits from corking his bat?
I mean if all (players, coaches, other employees) were involved in breaking the rules here, shouldn't they all be punished, benefit proven or not?
I suspect the answer to why the players aren't punished is the union, not the fact that it can't be proven the players benefited.
I find the idea of stripping championships silly. The games have been played, you know who won and lost, and then years after the fact you are going to vacate a championship? Are we going to name the Dodgers 2017 WS Champs? Do they get to have a parade in LA?
The NCAA loves to vacate wins, but the reality is, it has no effect. Sure schools may not be able to hang a banner, coaches get wins stripped from their record, but the game happened, the coaches got paid, they got bonuses, and any effect is purely a dent to their pride.
If we are making the players return the rings, we are taking down banners, should we make everyone send back their WS Champs merch?
Honest question, was the use of technology illegal? Its kinda like the entire steroid discussion from the 90's, PED's were not illegal in the game of baseball. Put an asterix by the 2017 title, tell the story of the cheating, but to strip the title and pretend like it didn't happen, I can't buy that.
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Old school 1983 (01-14-2020),REDREAD (01-13-2020),Slyder (01-15-2020)
Definitely agree that vacating titles is a hollow gesture. Leave that stuff to the amateurs.
Include me too. This was a blatant, systematic, continued, knowing, and team-wide severe violation. This has to be brought to aN absolute screeching halt. Strip the WS win, forfeit the winnings, lifetime ban the manager and GM, strip 2 years of draft picks, and ban from post season play for 2 years. The symbolic severed heads on a pike outside Minute Maid Park. Let the buzzards peck out their eyeballs. That should send a message. This cannot be tolerated.
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