Why are players untouchable here?
Why are players untouchable here?
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George Anderson (01-13-2020),Old school 1983 (01-14-2020),redsrule2500 (01-14-2020)
Along with MLB not wanting to get into with the players' union, how do you prove that a player benefited from this? it can be obvious that they did, but how do you prove it?
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REDREAD (01-13-2020)
Completely agree. The use of technology to cheat hurts the integrity of the game.
All involved should be banned from front office and managing jobs for life.
I do agree, the players should not be penalized, just manager, GM. I would even allow the guys in the crowd giving the signals to get no punishment, as they were just following orders.
This punishment is a joke, I don't care if they lose draft picks too.. That is meaningless. The message here is that it is worth it to try to cheat, just don't get caught.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
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Pretty stiff penalties for the first time MLB has had to deal with an issue like this. If this proves to be a non deterrent then they could go with harsher ones like lifetime bans and maybe even stripping of a title. Lets see how this one works first.
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DocRed (01-13-2020),Old school 1983 (01-14-2020)
Also, I'm in favor of setting a rule that allows all teams to do this now. Take the element of unfairness out of it entirely.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
cumberlandreds (01-13-2020),mbgrayson (01-13-2020)
It's definitely going to hurt down the line when their core players today all leave via free agency. Yes, they could still draft really well and come away with gems outside of the Top 100 picks, but it'll make it a hell of a lot harder.
Besides, what really can MLB do? It would be very difficult for a number of reasons to punish the players and it is a harsher punishment suspension-wise than what many were apparently expecting.
Yes, but the player is supposed to do what the manager tells them.
There was an example of a player in the post season that was accidentally positioned wrong defensively.
The player said he knew he was in the wrong spot, but it's his job to do what he is told and not question the manager. (Did not happen this year, many years ago).
A player who fought the cheat order or went public with it (before hard proof) could have his career permanently damaged or be black balled.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Griffey012 (01-13-2020),NebraskaRed (01-13-2020)
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