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    I'm not sure this sign stealing thing helped players, in fact it looks like it may have hurt. Altuve and Bregman have some pretty strong home road splits over the last few years, and they perform much better on the road.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Griffey012 View Post
    I'm not sure this sign stealing thing helped players, in fact it looks like it may have hurt. Altuve and Bregman have some pretty strong home road splits over the last few years, and they perform much better on the road.
    Yeah, if it were that much of a slam dunk thing, then why didn’t the Astros win the World Series this year and in 2018 too?

    I feel like I’m definitely going against the grain here, but I’ve found it hard to care much about this all along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Yeah, if it were that much of a slam dunk thing, then why didn’t the Astros win the World Series this year and in 2018 too?

    I feel like I’m definitely going against the grain here, but I’ve found it hard to care much about this all along.
    I care in the sense it seems like an obvious breaking of the rules. But also extra foolish considering the numbers don't show it helped.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Yeah, if it were that much of a slam dunk thing, then why didn’t the Astros win the World Series this year and in 2018 too?

    I feel like I’m definitely going against the grain here, but I’ve found it hard to care much about this all along.
    Well the guy who basically orchestrated the whole thing did win the the 2018 world series. People who say this is not an advantage is fullish. Anyone who has played any level of baseball, knows it is easier to hit if you know the pitch that is coming. In this instance I don't care what the numbers say. They didn't go to all this trouble because it didn't work.

    Stealing signs is part of the game because it gives your team an advantage, but this was blatant cheating that everyone involved knew was cheating. Baseball is letting them off easy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Yeah, if it were that much of a slam dunk thing, then why didn’t the Astros win the World Series this year and in 2018 too?

    I feel like I’m definitely going against the grain here, but I’ve found it hard to care much about this all along.
    The thing I see players talking about on Twitter is unfairness to the pitchers. Many pitchers are a bad week or game away from being released or demoted. That can mean tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands that season, and perhaps millions of dollars lost in following seasons because the opposing team wasn't playing fairly.
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    I am not. He hit better on the road than at home last year.
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    If you people didn't have something to worry about I'd be worried (LOL)
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    Re: Anyone Else Worried About Moustakas Contract After Astros Scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    The thing I see players talking about on Twitter is unfairness to the pitchers. Many pitchers are a bad week or game away from being released or demoted. That can mean tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands that season, and perhaps millions of dollars lost in following seasons because the opposing team wasn't playing fairly.
    but did it really cost any pitchers if the splits are as claimed in the thread? I am not suggesting it should be allowed or the parties should not be punished....but I find it mostly uninteresting because I assume many teams have some internal things going on that would not be viewed within the spirit of the game.

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    Re: Anyone Else Worried About Moustakas Contract After Astros Scandal?

    According to a new report the cheating was happening at home as well as on the road using the “code breaker” program.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    The thing I see players talking about on Twitter is unfairness to the pitchers. Many pitchers are a bad week or game away from being released or demoted. That can mean tens of thousands, hundreds of thousands that season, and perhaps millions of dollars lost in following seasons because the opposing team wasn't playing fairly.
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    In the immortal words of my own daughter 20 years ago over some really unimportant thing, and I quote, "omg!"

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    Re: Anyone Else Worried About Moustakas Contract After Astros Scandal?

    Quote Originally Posted by JFLegal View Post
    what is with all the snark directed at the op? it's a legitimate question. no one is worried about moustakas having a bad life. what he obviously meant was should reds fans be worried/concerned that moose might not have been a good signing.
    I've noticed a LOT of people are just snarky. I call if MFS (Mike Florio Syndrome).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Timpiker View Post
    I've noticed a LOT of people are just snarky. I call if MFS (Mike Florio Syndrome).
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