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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Good for Dusty. In the meantime, I'm hoping the Reds can post their first winning season since Dusty got shown the door.
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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Good for Dusty. In the meantime, I'm hoping the Reds can post their first winning season since Dusty got shown the door.
    Never understood the Dusty hate, he lead the Reds to their longest period of success since the 70’s.
    When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfanmia View Post
    Never understood the Dusty hate, he lead the Reds to their longest period of success since the 70’s.
    1985-95 was a better run, but totally agreed that Dusty deserves nothing but love from Reds fans.
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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Weird that an analytical team like the Astros would hire one of the most anti analytical managers in mlb

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    Quote Originally Posted by TeamSelig View Post
    Weird that an analytical team like the Astros would hire one of the most anti analytical managers in mlb
    Most likely integrity matters more than all else for them. Dusty's the right man at the moment, I think.
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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Now very conflicted.

    I want the Astros to suck, but want Dusty to win a ring.
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    Dusty is an average manager but he is a good man.
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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    They obviously felt they needed someone with integrity and they got that in Dusty Baker. I expect they'lll do pretty well with him at the helm. He desrves a lot more credit than a lot of folks give him around here IMO.
    School's out. What did you expect?

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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    Most likely integrity matters more than all else for them. Dusty's the right man at the moment, I think.
    Which is probably a good idea for them. But surely there’s an analytical manager out there with character? Kinda wonder if no one wanted the job and he was one of very few candidates. Also, I suppose he could come with limited control over the team.

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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    When Dusty was managing the Reds, the game was passing him by. Now? The game has passed him by.

    Shortstops don't always bat 2nd.
    Data actually matters more than gut feelings.
    Starting pitchers can't throw 120 pitches every 5 days.
    And white people don't get gassed in the summer heat more than other ethnicities.

    The Astros just made a huge mistake, and I'm glad. They deserve every bit that Dusty brings to the table in 2020. Toothpicks and all.
    You forgot one. 38 year olds who have been around the league aren't always the better choice to start than 25 year olds that are out playing them.

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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    Dusty is an average manager but he is a good man.
    I don't think "average" summarizes Dusty very well. He's an excellent regular season manager, highly respected by his players, a great leader of men.

    He's not won in the post-season, I'd argue a combo of lack of urgency in his decisions and some bad luck.

    Overall, though, he's won 1863 regular season ballgames with a .532 winning percentage. He's made it to the post-season nine times with four different teams and 23-32 W-L and .418 winning percentage.

    He's a great fit for the Astros although he's not managed in the AL previously.

    Good for him, he keeps turning up, fits the job well. Good luck Dusty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    I don't think "average" summarizes Dusty very well. He's an excellent regular season manager, highly respected by his players, a great leader of men.

    He's not won in the post-season, I'd argue a combo of lack of urgency in his decisions and some bad luck.

    Overall, though, he's won 1863 regular season ballgames with a .532 winning percentage. He's made it to the post-season nine times with four different teams and 23-32 W-L and .418 winning percentage.

    He's a great fit for the Astros although he's not managed in the AL previously.

    Good for him, he keeps turning up, fits the job well. Good luck Dusty.
    I don't think "average" summarizes him either. I believe he's below average. His winning percentage is directly related to the fact he's always hired into teams that are at the top or on their way to the top. He manages like a robot. He goes into spring training with a 25 man roster and 8 starters already picked out. He never deviates from that unless forced to by injury or trade. He manages in the post season the exact same as he does in the regular season. Remember when he lost to the Dodgers who brought Kershaw in relief at the end of game 5? He criticized that move by saying "Now he can't use him to begin the NL championship series." That's typical Baker. Hey Dusty, at least he got that far, saving him might have meant he wouldn't be able to use him until April.

    The Reds team he inherited was a young team ready to explode. In 2012 he had one of the best pitching staffs this team ever had and won the first two games in the playoffs only to lose three straight at home and watch the Giants walk to another World Series Championship. That's not some exception, Dusty's teams always find a way to give up post season series, when usually the better team.

    I can't wait to see the way he sets the Astros lineup and watch him fumble this new thing to him called the DH(new in that he will have to use it in most games).

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    Quote Originally Posted by foster15 View Post
    The Reds team he inherited was a young team ready to explode. In 2012 he had one of the best pitching staffs this team ever had and won the first two games in the playoffs only to lose three straight at home and watch the Giants walk to another World Series Championship. That's not some exception, Dusty's teams always find a way to give up post season series, when usually the better team.
    He inherited the 2008 Reds, which were not even close to ready to explode. And you're complaining that the Reds lost to a Giants team that won three WS titles in five years.

    21st century Reds history is filled with years of misery with a brief bout of quality baseball in the middle under the guidance of Dusty Baker. That's a kind of miserable no one should be.
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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    BTW, this still hasn't been announced officially, but it seems likely.

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    Re: Dusty Baker is the new Astros Manager

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    He inherited the 2008 Reds, which were not even close to ready to explode. And you're complaining that the Reds lost to a Giants team that won three WS titles in five years.

    21st century Reds history is filled with years of misery with a brief bout of quality baseball in the middle under the guidance of Dusty Baker. That's a kind of miserable no one should be.
    If the Reds had a decent post-season manager in 2012, those Giants would've won 2 World Series in 5 years, not three. 2008-2009, those Reds teams were under .500. So what happened? They started winning because they had talent maturing. I'm of the opinion that the personnel made the teams in 2010, 2012 and 2013 winners, not the manager.

    You're going to find very few Reds fans that believe the Giants had a better team than the Reds in 2012. The manager is the reason we lost.


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