Who are some relievers that fit your description of an upgrade you've been asking for all off-season? Aroldis Chapman, Ken Giles, anyone else? Any relievers aside from Giles who might be available? Does Giles even fit the description? He hasn't exactly been the model of consistency, 2 years with an ERA over 4.
The Reds are at a point where pitchers likely want to come here too, competitive team with great coaching. For a player looking to turn around a bad season and extend his career, Cincy is a good destination.
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I think Strop will provide a decent back end arm. I wouldn't be against adding another one, but I think the bullpen should be in decent shape.
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My same Cubs friends who were crying in their beer over the loss of Castellanos are celebrating the Reds picking up Strop.
Last edited by mth123; 01-31-2020 at 07:38 PM.
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Tony Watson's turning 35, is coming off his worst season ever, is owed nearly twice as much, and it would take a prospect to get him.
Kennedy is owed 17M$ this season.
Kela has had a ton of injuries prevent him from playing a full season over the past 4 years.
I don't understand why you think Strop is much worse.
Watson had a better year than strop and could be had for a spare part. He's a lefty and I think he's a clear upgrade from Reed.
Kennedy's money is why he could be had for little and KC would pay part of it.
Kela's injury history is another reason he'd be available, but he's been effective while pitching. ERAs below 3.50 consistently
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Even if KC did pay part of Kennedy’s salary, you’d still be looking at upward of 8-10 M for a relief pitcher.
And no thanks on Keone Kela. Dude threw at someone and then admitted it to the press. He also got in a fistfight with his own teammate. He’s a tool and not very bright, at that.
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Griffey012 (01-31-2020)
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You have been pretty vocal all off-season about the Reds not getting a consistent, good quality reliever and then you finally toss out some names and it is a lot of what we already have. There are about 20 relievers in baseball that don't come with question marks, that is the nature of the gig. This aura of a quality, consistent reliever you are after is mostly a unicorn. All of these guys would improve the Reds pen by adding the potential for another solid option with varying levels of upside, but that is what we have a bunch of, and that is what Strop brings too.
Tony Watson was bad last year (I believe he battled some injuries) 6.8 K/9, 1.5 H/9 in SF, that's not quality, he could be a disaster in GABP. He exercised his $2.5M player option, he must really have confidence in himself. How is he different than Strop?
Ken Giles was not good in 2018, bounced back last year. 2 separate years with an ERA above 4, he has been good, but not consistent.
Ian Kennedy spent 2017 and 2018 being a not good starter, went to the bullpen last year and excelled. Is he really that different than Robert Stephenson or even Cody Reed?
Keone Kela is an @$$hat, no thanks
Mychal Givens gave up 1.87 HR/9 last year, he's more of what we have, a talented arm that is a question mark.
I wouldn't be opposed to acquiring any of those guys sans Kela, but the reality is none of them are locks to be a high level reliever either. But they all have their own questions, consistency issues, or in Kela's case clubhouse issues.
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