He's having a terrible Spring. Lots of ballplayers, even good ones, have bad STs (and even Aprils). But most were established players too. You knew what you had. Not so with Aquino. He's working, trying, to become one. And so far it's been pretty erratic.
Last August's performance, regardless of how phenomenal it was, does not, IMO, guarantee him a spot on the bench on OD. He has to show better consistency. And there are young players playing for that bench (OF) spot who are having a good Spring. What do you tell them? If he doesn't start to play better, then it's back to the farms and the drawing board. If he's such a great talent he'll show it at AAA and be back up here in no time.
And it could be that pitchers too have simply adjusted to him.
"In my day you had musicians who experimented with drugs. Now it's druggies experimenting with music" - Alfred G Clark (circa 1972)
Assembly Hall (03-09-2020),MoneyInTheBank (03-09-2020)
I wonder if the Reds' FO is looking back and wishing they would have dealt Aquino last season(during or just after the hot streak) or this off season?
agree,, if ervin or winker hit 16 home runs in one month then I would want to be patient with them
Lol it’s misleading! His numbers are what they are. “Yeah but he had 300 some odd PA’s in the minors his first year!” He did, and his season ended in injury, just like the last two have. There’s nothing misleading about him and his availability, or lack of.
He’s a career 1.3 win player to this point. If you don’t see that as replacement level, I don’t know what to tell you. A one win position player still stinks. For perspective Galvis, who everybody on this board wants to upgrade from, was a 1.6 last year. Votto last year was a 1.6 and I think it’s a pretty unanimous sentiment that he was poor. Aquino in 2 months was a 1.6.
And as far as everyone here sees him as a platoon player, that’s just...completely untrue. Again, not EVERYONE, but a significant portion see him as a cornerstone. They see that on base percentage and extrapolate it over 600 PA’s and dream. It’s insane. Like I said, if he’s able to stay healthy and improve and hit LHP at a level of decency, then he’s someone worth keeping. If not, I’m not bailing on Aquino or even Ervin for him. Not with the upgrades the Reds have made in the OF this off season, where Aquino being a stiff doesn’t kill the team like it would have the previous 5 plus years.
The WAR is definitely misleading. As you stated he is getting that WAR on limited playing time and with the hit on his defense. So he is definitely way above a replacement player. Your hate for Winker is astounding, in no world should you think of starting Ervin over Winker especially against RHP.
LOL “it’s misleading! It’s Russian disinformation!” Why is the playing time limited again? BECAUSE HE’S CHRONICALLY FREAKING INJURED. How hard is this to get? And why on earth would you put any sort of bank on a player like this? Especially when his ceiling is likely around 2 wins if all goes right. THAT’S astounding.
As for his anemic WAR? Take it up with the fine folks at Baseball Reference.
its amazing on this site for a perennial pathetic loser team that there is no enthusiasm for a guy who hits 16 homers in a months,, but there is enthusiasm for a mediocre, disabled list visitor,, everyone should be screaming for aquino to get the starting job
One thing to remember:
No matter who the worst player on the club is,
He has more talent and is a better baseball player than you or any of your family and friends.
Calm down and try to enjoy the upcoming season.
It's extremely misleading actually. Because he's actually averaged over 400 PAs over the last 3 seasons. Just some of those were before he was called up to the majors. You hire an employee in July and, after their first sick day a year and a half later, you say "the guy does this all the time, he's out a quarter of the time on average". That's misleading. If your argument was "he has finished the last 3 years hurt", you will get no pushback from me. I'm just pointing out there was a flaw in the stats you cited.
WAR is not friendly to Winker (be careful when comparing across positions though) and it's due to defense and baserunning. We will just have to agree to disagree on the merits of using WAR as a catch all to evaluate a player.
You have built up this strawman again that a strong portion of people here see him as a cornerstone but, unless I'm missing something, I haven't seen advocates for locking him in for 162. I like him better than Ervin and Aquino because I value hitting RHP so much. He doesn't need to hit LHP. Then you figure out how to limit the exposure in his poor areas. Defensive subs, platoons and pinch runners. It may just be a difference in philosophy.
OGB (03-09-2020),Rdirtypirates (03-09-2020)
yes and it was also oK to waste six (6) weeks on schebler, who hasnt one fifth the ceiling that aquino has, yet when it comes to aquino we have no patience
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