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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    The turnover last year was actually quite low, and they still struggled. Still, that struggle is relative. They went to the Elite 8 twice and the Sweet 16 once in the past five years. This year, they had a real chance to win it all. They won the SEC crown this year. They won it three times in the last five years. I don't know of too many squads in the country that wouldn't trade.



    Best recruiting ranking in the nation this year, with two wings inside the top 10.

    Best or second-best recruiting ranking every year since Calipari has been at Kentucky. Except one.

    He was third that year.



    I don't think you can say any of this with any kind of confidence.
    Tubby won a lot of SEC titles (regular season and tournament). Iíd trade those for another championship or two in the Cal era.

    Recruiting is tricky. The numbers are there because of the volume of the players Cal is bringing in so in a way they are overinflated. Look at the following:

    2016: DeAron Fox (6)
    2017: Hami Diallo (10)
    2018: EJ Montgomery (9)
    2019: Tyrese Maxey (10)
    2020: BJ Boston (4)

    Those are the highest rated recruits from each class. BJ Boston is the highest but there hasnít been a John Wall, Anthony Davis, or KAT in the last five years. Cal has missed on a lot of top recruits whether itís Ben Simmons, Zion Williamson, Cade Cunningham, James Wiseman, Anthony Edwards, RJ Barrett, etc.

    I donít fault Cal for it given the baggage of some of the players listed but I do think some of it is the staff recruiting the players. Like Tubby, Cal has an intense loyalty to certain people on his staff, namely Justus and Barbee.

    I canít say the Coronavirus part with any confidence but given how the past five years have gone itís pretty much the trend.
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    I can't imagine two coaches more different than Tubby Smith and John Calipari in terms of result and philosophy.

    Fwiw, Justus was named among the best assistant coaches in the nation.

    I also can't imagine complaining about Kentucky's recruiting under Cal. Or its success.

    But hey, to each their own, I guess.

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    The number one player in the nation who almost picked Kentucky is likely going to be back on the market and UK will likely be a front runner if it happens?

    Rivals: Cade Cunningham was ďas close as you could get to committingĒ on Kentucky visit

    https://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...entucky-visit/

    Would Kentucky have room for him and Olivier Sarr? Or will Sarr be declared ineligible? (Which would show incredible bias given they ruled Juzang eligible at UCLA)

    Anywho, this could be a Final Four caliber team:

    PG-Cunningham/Askew/Mintz
    SG-Boston/Allen
    SF-Clarke/Fletcher/Toppin
    PF-Brooks/Ware
    C-Sarr/Jackson

    Depth at every position.
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    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    Anywho, this could be a Final Four caliber team:

    PG-Cunningham/Askew/Mintz
    SG-Boston/Allen
    SF-Clarke/Fletcher/Toppin
    PF-Brooks/Ware
    C-Sarr/Jackson

    Depth at every position.
    That would be the top team in the country.

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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Do we have a seperate thread for Kentucky football or is this just a UK catch all?

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    UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Quote Originally Posted by UKWhoDey View Post
    Do we have a seperate thread for Kentucky football or is this just a UK catch all?
    Started one

    In the Politics and Religious Forum by mistake.

    Carry on with the new one.
    Last edited by WVRed; 06-09-2020 at 02:49 PM.
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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    That would be the top team in the country.
    LOL
    Fake news

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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Kenny Payne leaves Kentucky for the New York Knicks.

    It'll be interesting to see who he picks to replace one of the best Assistant Coaches in basketball. It's relatively late in the season to grab someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    It'll be interesting to see who he picks to replace one of the best Assistant Coaches in basketball. It's relatively late in the season to grab someone.
    Well, that didn't take long: Bruiser Flint leaves IU for spot on Kentucky bench.

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    Honestly not surprised with either. Although Payne was recruiting Bryce Hopkins (who decomitted from Louisville right before Payne left), that it leaked that Bruiser Flint was the replacement said Payne was probably gone.

    Happy for Kenny Payne and Iíll even go as far to say he may end up with the interim tag once Thibs wears out his welcome in NY or he could use the opportunity for a head NBA job somewhere else. With the UK footprint in the NBA, he would have no trouble finding players to come play for him.

    Not crazy about Bruiser Flint but given the timing I canít complain too much. Cal puts too much emphasis on loyalty vs bringing in new blood. All thatís needed is Justus to get a head coaching job and Iím sure Coach O or Pastner (once he gets fired at Ga Tech) would be the pick.

    I think Kentucky is going to miss Payne from a developmental standpoint, especially with bigs. They no longer have the ďbig man whispererĒ which played a significant role in Davis, Towns, WCS, Adebayo, and Richards development.
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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Interesting game on KSR. You've got $15 and need a starting five from the following list:

    $5 Guys
    John Wall
    Jamal Murray
    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
    Karl-Anthony Towns
    Anthony Davis

    $4 Guys
    Brandon Knight
    Malik Monk
    Devin Booker
    Julius Randle
    DeMarcus Cousins

    $3 Guys
    D'Aaron Fox
    Doron Lamb
    D. Miller
    Terrence Jones
    Willie Cauley-Stein

    $2 Guys
    Tyler Ulis
    Aaron Harrison
    Tyler Herro
    PJ Washington
    Bam Adebayo

    $1 Guys
    Shai Gilgeous-Alexander
    I. Quickley
    Kevin Knox
    P. Patterson
    Nick Richards

    My picks:
    PG SGA
    SG Monk
    SF Booker
    PF Patterson
    C AD
    They'll be loose with the ball, but SGA and AD are great college-level defenders, and Patterson's not too far behind. Better, I might have an elite shooting team. And the length would be ridiculous.

    Who you got?
    Monk was so good his 1 year, not being at $5 is just ridiculous. Especially if Gilly the kid and Murray are.

    PG - SGA
    SG - Monk
    SF - Knox
    PF - Cousins
    C - AD


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    Big loss for Cal on the recruiting trail today with Paolo Banchero who was long considered a UK lean committing to Duke.

    Starting to feel the loss of Kenny Payne?
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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Itís starting to look like the Kentucky-Louisville game this season as well as possibly the series could be in jeopardy:

    Calipari: Kentucky has backup plan if Louisville doesnít want to play

    https://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...-want-to-play/
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    Re: UK Basketball 2020-2021: ? Has Entered the Draft/Transfer Portal

    Quote Originally Posted by WVRed View Post
    It’s starting to look like the Kentucky-Louisville game this season as well as possibly the series could be in jeopardy:

    Calipari: Kentucky has backup plan if Louisville doesn’t want to play

    https://kentuckysportsradio.com/bask...-want-to-play/
    I hope the backup plan is Butler.
    Fake news

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    I hope the backup plan is Butler.
    Donít know but I donít understand Chris Mackís perspective.

    Thereís a very real possibility that fans will be limited or wonít be allowed in Rupp next year either. Not playing the game is going to kill what little in state revenue plus tv revenue is left.
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