Didn't the WHO also say that it wasn't human-to-human transmission in January and that it was basically 'nbd' like other viruses that have spread? I mean, if we're going to talk about failures of the CDC, which is well deserved, the agency that actually looks over the entire world should also be included as part of your blame.
757690 (04-25-2020)
Todd Gack (04-25-2020)
"Governor Andrew Cuomo said. “Testing is what we are compulsively or obsessively focused on now.”
Cuomo said antibody testing of workers at four downstate hospitals would begin on Saturday, including at Elmhurst Hospital, where at least 13 patients died from COVID-19 in a 24-hour span late last month in a development that brought the depth of the crisis into focus for many Americans.
It is one piece of a broader roll-out of antibody testing of nurses, police officers, firefighters, bus drivers, grocery store clerks and other essential workers who Cuomo said had been “carrying the load” of keeping people fed and safe.
Cuomo said it was important to test these “public-facing” groups of workers for both their own safety and also to protect the public as New York, in coordination with neighboring states, begins to look at when and how to reopen its economy."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN2270PA
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
"In four U.S. state prisons, nearly 3,300 inmates test positive for coronavirus -- 96% without symptoms."
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKCN2270RX
“It adds to the understanding that we have a severe undercount of cases in the U.S.,” said Dr. Leana Wen, adjunct associate professor of emergency medicine at George Washington University, said of the Reuters findings. “The case count is likely much, much higher than we currently know because of the lack of testing and surveillance.”
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"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
Sorry, should have been infinitely more specific: IT hasn't ramped up nearly enough to make me think that we can get a vaccine to the number of people we need to in order to start packing 40,000 people into a stadium anytime in the near future. And when I say near, I mean like the next year.
Once you have a vaccine that's approved, you then need to start making it. Making hundreds of millions of vaccines is going to take a long time on it's own. Much less distributing it to the doctors, who then have to start setting up appointments to distribute it to 330,000,000 people. This is going to take a long, long time, even if we get a vaccine that works in the next 6 months.
mth123 (04-26-2020)
Maybe there is an elastic enough supply chain, but ........
when you are flying in hundreds of thousands of swabs from Italy by c-130 military cargo planes in late Mar to mid Apr it tells me that the supply chain stateside isn't sufficient. Even if you have all the other parts to test - no swab, no test - no matter how many machines you have to process the samples
Yes. That Bill Gates offer is him deciding that when it gets down to the final two options, he'll then begin making the billions necessary of vaccines needed world-wide because it's not about getting certain people vaccinated, but everybody vaccinated as there's no confimation as of this minute that a person cannot get reinfected. The timeline is still looking at next March at the earliest before there will be enough vaccines available to the masses to allow packed stadiums of people to gather.
"One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."
No doubt that there is a lag time, no matter how you try to shorten it. And on the vaccine front they are talking about starting production before approval, so that if approval happens, ramp up has already taken place. Somebody will be eating some costs, probably the US tax payers for the potential vaccines that don't work out.
And you are right about the fact that going to a baseball game the way we did in 2019, is a long ways off.
I think I mentioned this in the other thread that hit 1000 posts, but our youth baseball leagues in Wichita are now saying they will start back up with games starting May 11 (for my older son) and May 27 (younger son). That means baseball practice will start back up May 4 as soon as the state stay at home order expires. People here so far seem okay with that and plan to send their kids to practice and to play in games. I'm curious what others are seeing with respect to youth sports (particularly baseball) in other parts of the country.
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Young and middle-aged people, barely sick with covid-19, are dying of strokes
Reports of strokes in the young and middle-aged — not just at Mount Sinai, but also in many other hospitals in communities hit hard by the novel coronavirus — are the latest twist in our evolving understanding of the disease it causes. The numbers of those affected are small but nonetheless remarkable because they challenge how doctors understand the virus. Even as it has infected nearly 2.8 million people worldwide and killed about 195,000 as of Friday, its biological mechanisms continue to elude top scientific minds. Once thought to be a pathogen that primarily attacks the lungs, it has turned out to be a much more formidable foe — impacting nearly every major organ system in the body.
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
Kingspoint (04-26-2020)
You may catch coronavirus more than once, WHO warns as global death toll tops 200,000
https://www.straitstimes.com/world/e...-than-once-who
Kingspoint (04-26-2020)
Wonderful Monds (04-25-2020)
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