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    John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    DH will likely be universal when baseball returns, and that's a good thing for the 2020 Cincinnati Reds

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ds/3048573001/



    NL without DH = game of Chess.

    AL with DH = game of Checkers.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    We all have seen this coming.

    I don't like it, but it is what is...

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    MLB seems kind of sleazy in using this situation to A) obliterate the minors B) bring on the universal DH and maybe C) get the geographic realignment they have wanted since they got rid of the league offices.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    Quote Originally Posted by BobRoberts View Post
    We all have seen this coming.

    I don't like it, but it is what is...
    Sadly...I agree with you. This is a era of immediate gratification. We old see that. And to our advantage, we saw fit stock up our pantries ahead of time.

    I despair for my nephews and nieces they are in their 50s now.

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    The old farts said the same thing when the relief pitcher was instituted LOL

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    This year is a better time than ever to try it out, I guess.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    Quote Originally Posted by North View Post
    DH will likely be universal when baseball returns, and that's a good thing for the 2020 Cincinnati Reds

    https://www.cincinnati.com/story/spo...ds/3048573001/



    NL without DH = game of Chess.

    AL with DH = game of Checkers.
    I used to think this, but it's not true anymore. The biggest decision that a DH removes is the decision to PH for a pitcher who is dominating and having to replace him with a new guy. Back in the old days, this was a major decision lost to the DH that caused me to hate it. These days, they take that pitcher out anyway DH or no DH. The rest of the stuff the DH might impact - the double switch, which PH to use, etc. are pretty basic and usually obvious moves that just about any 8 year old kid who follows the team could make.

    I don't really care one way or the other, but I do think both leagues should operate under the same rules.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    When your starting pitcher went 7 or more innings on the regular then DH/no DH mattered more.

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    At least on a Reds level, the DH may make the twilight of Joey Votto's career more enjoyable.

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    A DH helps the Reds.

    Four starting caliber OF can get near full-time ABs while resting the poorest glove.

    Fans of Winkervin and Castellanos should be happy at this development.

    (Aquino too, perhaps.)

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    I used to be opposed to the DH. I officially made the switch last year. I think I finally got tired of seeing a rally die because the pitcher came to the plate. There will still be plenty of strategy and decisions to be made despite it.

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    I used to be against the DH. I have changed my mind and now I'm all for it.

    Why?

    During this whole BUDLITE-19 thing, I have watched and listened to a fair amount of Reds games from the late 70s and 80s.

    ...the game has changed. A lot. I could write a large novel on how much it has changed but the easiest description of the contrast between now and then, is that the game is much simpler now. The checkers vs chess analogy used above, fits here as well.

    Baseball has been dumbed down to such a degree, that all the nuances that came with the pitcher batting 9th are all but irrelevant. And everybody under 40 thinks those nuances are boring anyway. MLB is trying so hard to be the NFL. 3 automatic outs/rally killers every night makes no sense in today's game.
    1. Smaller parks.
    2. Robot umps.
    3. 3 outcome at-bats
    4. Nets covering everything
    5. Nobody in the stands watching anyway.

    Today's baseball is pretty much like a video game with commercials. If you're a purist, the game is already ruined. Might as well open the floodgates.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    Quote Originally Posted by gonelong View Post
    When your starting pitcher went 7 or more innings on the regular then DH/no DH mattered more.
    My beard is gray. I've been rooting for the Reds since before that Sparky guy was in the dugout. I don't remember a time when I regularly thought the Reds starting pitcher would go more than 7 innings.

    Oh and the dh is still a terrible idea.

    Stay off my lawn.
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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    If you're a purist, the game is already ruined.
    I'd argue that, as analytics and math have caught up with the game, we've realized all those little moves that managers used to pull have been discovered to be detrimental to scoring runs.

    Sacrifice bunts look like a manager's working hard. In fact, they're often a bad move.

    Stealing bases, double steals, and sacrifices are in the same boat.

    Basically, according to math, it's best to pull the Early (Weaver), with a side of Casey Stengel (platoons), and LaRussa (bullpen management/ specialization).

    Since almost everyone has learned that, the game looks less complicated. But it is more conducive to scoring and preventing runs than before.

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    Re: John Fay sez DH will likely be universal when baseball returns

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