Whoever sez is if he has a decent bat and can play ss, the Reds should sign him.
Whoever sez is if he has a decent bat and can play ss, the Reds should sign him.
redsmetz (04-30-2020)
Bob Sheed (04-30-2020)
This is the case, and it's kind of sad in some ways (not all), but the data is the data.
You know how you could get 70s / 80s baseball back? Drastically reduce the number of games. Far enough down to where each team would only have 2 or 3 starting pitchers, most of whom can go 7+ innings regularly. Maybe an NBA/NHL length season. That would be an environment where things like sac bunts, steals, etc. would maybe make sense because runs would be harder to come by, home runs would be less frequent, etc.
That would suck, I don't want that.
Anyway, pitchers hitting has always been so boring. We don't have to watch shortstops hitting .210 with singles power anymore, and we shouldn't put up with pitchers hitting either.
You look at regular season games from 30-40 years ago and fully 1/3 of an average NL team's lineup was an offensive black hole, often more. There are things I miss from 80's baseball, but watching guys who can't hit isn't one of those things, and I won't miss watching pitchers hit either.
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Aside from the DH, rampant relief use and the league wide three outcome saturation I see a lot of the 1950s in today's game. Small parks, station to station ball, HR dependence, small stealing numbers. As for the nets you probably wouldn't need them in the 1950's attendance was abysmal most places and a two thousand paid attendance contest was pretty normal
dfs (04-30-2020),Kinsm (04-30-2020),M2 (04-30-2020),Redsfaithful (04-30-2020)
Pitch hitting for a pitcher in the late innings of a close game is still considered a statistically smart move most of the time. Having a pitcher bunt a runner over is still a statistically smart move most of the time. Those are the manager move that the DH eliminate.
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REDREAD (05-01-2020)
All my posts are my opinion - just like yours are. If I forget to state it and you're too dense to see the obvious, look here!
What about a rule where if you remove the starting pitcher, you also lose the DH. The DH could still stay in the game and be switched out for a position player, like the double switch. Reduces the number of times you see a pitcher hit to almost zero (how often does a reliever hit?) Still keeps the late game strategy people like about the NL, pretty much eliminates pitchers hitting at the same time. I would be in favor of that rule in both leagues.
757690 (04-30-2020)
If I want homogenization, I’ll drink a glass of milk.
She used to wake me up with coffee ever morning
Old school 1983 (04-30-2020),westofyou (04-30-2020)
Those aren't hard calls or chess moves, as mth says. They're just the moves everyone makes.
More fun, IMO, would be pinch hitting for a regular who's struggling. A ninth place hitter who provides plus defense, perhaps.
That's a chess move. (One way or another.)
And you typically don't see that happen on NL teams as much as AL teams.
Good news for the Reds. Castellanos and Winker in the same outfield never made much sense defensively. You can stand one of the two.
REDREAD (05-01-2020)
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I think the biggest thing I’ll miss is the odd pitcher here and there that really could hit, that was always entertaining. But whatever I guess, the writing has been on the wall for years with this.
Now I’m just hoping Manfred doesn’t use this as an excuse to implement automatic runners on second in extras or any of his other stupid ideas.
Chip R (05-01-2020)
This is a great idea. I've never heard this one before. It adds to the import of the decision to replace a pitcher. You essentially "pair up" a pitcher and hitter. I'd add that if a DH has been announced but has not come to the plate yet, he can be paired with the next pitcher.
Old school 1983 (04-30-2020)
OF would be a 5-man rotation for 4 spots (including a DH)
LF Shogo
1B Votto
3B Suarez
2B Moustakas
RF Castellanos
DH Winker/Aquino
CF Senzel
CA Barnhart/Casali
SS Galvis
IF Farmer
OF Ervin
Last edited by corkedbat; 04-30-2020 at 03:47 PM.
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