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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Like everything else NYT, you have to read through horrible propaganda prose to get to facts.

    Moscow has reported just 956 deaths, compared with more than 19,000 in New York City. The hospitals are strained, but not yet overwhelmed.

    That's paragraph 22. 22.

    Good Lord.
    Tit for tat I suppose, Russia is pretty well entrenched in that approach as well


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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

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    In Russia Covid has you.

    Business took me past the Iron Curtain. Here is a photo of the wall between East and West Germany. The multi-colored stick is the border. Cross that and you got machine gunned. I have many stories.

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Tit for tat I suppose, Russia is pretty well entrenched in that approach as well
    Russian media propagandizes its population? I don't doubt that. The difference is that Russians know it. Americans, God Bless Them, don't.

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    Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Russian media propagandizes its population? I don't doubt that. The difference is that Russians know it. Americans, God Bless Them, don't.

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    Stay inside during these uncertain times (gentle piano, corporations care).
    We're with you during these difficult times that you find the need to assume we're all duped daily.

    Yet we all are different too

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Like everything else NYT, you have to read through horrible propaganda prose to get to facts.

    Moscow has reported just 956 deaths, compared with more than 19,000 in New York City. The hospitals are strained, but not yet overwhelmed.

    That's paragraph 22. 22.

    Good Lord.
    There is no free press in Russia. You can't take any of those numbers as gospel.

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    Russian media propagandizes its population? I don't doubt that. The difference is that Russians know it. Americans, God Bless Them, don't.

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    Stay inside during these uncertain times (gentle piano, corporations care).
    Say what you want about our media here, I've said many times that it has serious problems, but one thing is for damn sure: they're not beholden to the President. Just the opposite. Putin would never put up with a Press so hostile to him

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Sea Ray View Post
    There is no free press in Russia. You can't take any of those numbers as gospel.
    There's an opposition press. Does it face harrassment? Yes.

    Legally we have a free press, but it's dominated by corporate-controlled giants.

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    There's an opposition press. Does it face harrassment? Yes.

    Legally we have a free press, but it's dominated by corporate-controlled giants.
    Harassment? The opposition press in Russia gets murdered on occasion.
    And which corporate controlled giant controls NPR?

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

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    And which corporate controlled giant controls NPR?
    https://fair.org/home/npr-infomercia...al-criticisms/

    And now, a word from our sponsor: Morning Edition‘s segment (11/21/18) on NPR-underwriter Amazon is sourced entirely to Amazon.

    There are dozens of reports detailing how Amazon’s shipping policies negatively affect both workers and the environment, but one wouldn’t have any idea either was a concern after listening to NPR’s sexed-up report (Morning Edition, 11/21/18), “Optimized Prime: How AI and Anticipation Power Amazon’s 1-Hour Deliveries.”

    The report, detailing the “Artificial Intelligence” behind Amazon’s delivery systems, relies entirely on interviews with Amazon flacks. The only people NPR speaks to are Brad Porter, the head of robotics for Amazon operations; Jenny Freshwater, director of software development; and Amazon VP Cem Sibay. No outside parties were sought for comment, let alone anyone remotely adversarial, such as labor organizers or environmental activists.

    Indeed, the words “labor,” “worker” or “employee” are nowhere to be found in the six-minute report: Christmas packages simply deliver themselves with the help of brilliant Amazon execs and this mysterious AI technology. If Amazon’s marketing department wrote and produced a segment on their AI technology for NPR, it’s difficult to see how it would have been any different. Host Rachel Martin and correspondent Alina Selyukh all but literally exclaim “gee whiz”:

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    https://fair.org/home/npr-infomercia...al-criticisms/

    And now, a word from our sponsor: Morning Edition‘s segment (11/21/18) on NPR-underwriter Amazon is sourced entirely to Amazon.

    There are dozens of reports detailing how Amazon’s shipping policies negatively affect both workers and the environment, but one wouldn’t have any idea either was a concern after listening to NPR’s sexed-up report (Morning Edition, 11/21/18), “Optimized Prime: How AI and Anticipation Power Amazon’s 1-Hour Deliveries.”:
    Sponsor is a different category of business involvement than owner. For an example - look up Gazprom and Izvestia.
    It was pretty easy to find an NPR piece critical of amazon shipping effects on workers: https://www.npr.org/2019/11/27/78322...es-report-says
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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Betterread View Post
    Sponsor is a different category of business involvement than owner. For an example - look up Gazprom and Izvestia.
    So state media is ok, like RT? And sponsors have no effect on content?

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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    There's an opposition press. Does it face harrassment? Yes.

    Legally we have a free press, but it's dominated by corporate-controlled giants.
    Fortunately, we have better watchdog groups here than Russia has there. I do believe that Russia has murdered over 60 journalists over the last 30 years. You don't dare contradict the government. At least our (by the way, it's not corporate controlled, but single individuals that own dozens of corporations that dictate media policy) media can question the government without being killed (not always, but they are usually not killed, they are just threatened with unemployment).

    https://cpj.org/data/killed/europe/r...up_by=location
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    Re: Report about Covid19 in Russia

    "Russia needs more doctors at various temporary facilities set up in the past weeks for light coronavirus cases, as the number of people testing positive has grown by more than 10,000 daily for over a week. More than 100 doctors have died treating the infection, according to a list of names kept by people in the profession."

    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/...081858609.html

    "Daunted by the prospect of contracting the virus in the clinics and infecting family members, or facing expulsion, aspiring medics have protested against the decision to send students in their fourth, fifth and sixth years - who can be as young as 21 - to complete their medical training in coronavirus clinics. The Ministry of Health announced on April 27 that the measure would go into effect starting May 1, and only students with "medical contraindications" can refuse. Students of all medical fields, including dentistry and paediatrics, are affected, according to the decree. "Those who refuse to go will not get their qualification and can face expulsion," said Svetlana, a sixth-year student. Confronted with a relentless daily increase of confirmed cases, which on Sunday pushed its total number over 200,000, Russia is taking measures to staff its hospitals as it expands the number of beds by 100,000 across the country."
    "One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."


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