Utah drops out of the Crossover Classic, but they will be replaced. They were on the opposite side of the bracket from WVU & Ohio State.
Utah drops out of the Crossover Classic, but they will be replaced. They were on the opposite side of the bracket from WVU & Ohio State.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
and Ohio State pulls out of the Crossover Classic in SD (replaced by Saint Mary's).....this tournament has went from a great field to an ok field....
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Ohio State dropped out due to the high Covid infection rate in South Dakota right now and the state recommending 14 days quarantine when returning from there. Dayton is also in the field so I really wonder if they will end up dropping out for the same reasonOriginally Posted by adkindo
Dayton did now withdraw from the same tournament Ohio State left in South Dakota. This would be a perfect time to do an event with Ohio State, Dayton, Cincinnati and Xavier. Pick an arena in Ohio and do a 4 team event over that weekend
Assembly Hall (11-07-2020),Boss-Hog (11-07-2020),Bourgeois Zee (11-07-2020),Revering4Blue (11-07-2020)
Kentucky releases its schedule. Tough OOC games with mid-major sleeper Richmond and traditional powers UCLA, Kansas, Louisville, plus Georgia Tech, Notre Dame, and Texas. Only three non-Power Five schools-- Richmond, Morehead (state school), and Detroit Mercy (Brad Calipari's current school).
Any other OOC schedules more difficult?
I wonder if the reason Kentucky and Kansas are playing in Indianapolis instead of in Lawrence is because they couldn’t get Coach K to agree to come to Rupp?
makes sense....Coach K will not go anywhere or play anyone relevant out of conference unless it is in Durham or neutral court....right?
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Gonzaga opens the season as #1 in the Preseason AP Poll.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Kansas, Baylor, Iowa, and Auburn-- at least we'll see what Gonzaga's all about.
And quickly.
Revering4Blue (11-09-2020)
And if they beat all those teams, by January 75% of college basketball fans will still say "It's not fair that Gonzaga is #1, tHeY'Re oNly BeaTiNg PePperDinE aNd pAcIFic!!!".
Revering4Blue (11-09-2020)
And that's a valid point, I'd argue. A weak conference limits your back-end upside. Teams improve throughout the season (or not). We won't get to see much of Gonzaga's improvement because the best teams they're facing in conference would struggle against the lesser lights of the Big 10, Big 12, SEC, ACC, and Big East. It's not their fault, of course. They largely can't help the conference they're a part of. (Though I'd argue a berth in the Pac 10 would be beneficial for both parties.) But it definitely flavors the perception.
Baylor will play Gonzaga. That's a great litmus test. We get to see them late in the season, when they face West Virginia too. Iowa meets Gonzaga in December and Michigan State in February. Auburn plays UK or UT or Florida or any number of quality teams in the SEC Tournament in March. Gonzaga will face... who? A BYU squad who lost nearly everyone? San Diego, who might be decent?
It's a recurring issue for Gonzaga. They have to prove they're for real year after year because they can't prove it in conference. It's not bias-- it's a lack of evidence.
No, it's bias in some cases and ignorance in many more. They provide plenty of evidence pretty much every single year against the best teams in college basketball. And every available objective measure pretty much confirms how good (or not good in some years) they are. And yet the shrill "But their conference!" cries from the unwashed masses returns every year like clockwork.
Gonzaga has underperformed its seed or lost to teams who were seeded below them three of the last four and four of the past six NCAA tournaments.
Maybe those are anomalies because of the one-and-done nature of the tournament. But they serve to underscore what you perceive as bias and ignorance.
Well, that's not true. They lost in the Elite Eight as a #1 seed their last NCAA Tournament to the national runners up. Technically underperformed, but...not really. 2018, yup. #4 seed that made the Sweet Sixteen, so they met seed expectation, but they did lose to a #9 seed. 2017 they went to the national title game and lost to a fellow #1 seed. In 2016 they won twice as a #11 seed and then lost to a higher seeded team. In 2015, they were a #2 seed and lost to a #1 seed in the regional final. 2014 they were a #8 seed and lost to a #1 seed in the second round. So in those six NCAA Tournaments you referenced, they met or exceeded seed expectations 5 times and underperformed once. That one underperformance was a loss in the Elite Eight. They lost to higher seeded teams 3 times, lower seeded teams twice and the same seed once (in the national title game). That's a pretty damned good track record.
Gonzaga really didn't get things cranked up until after 2014 in the NCAA Toournament (5 wins the first half of last decade). Despite that, they finished sixth in NCAA Tournament wins for the decade behind exactly who you'd expect (Kentucky, Duke, North Carolina, Kansas and Michigan State).
Last edited by Boston Red; 11-09-2020 at 06:35 PM.
Assembly Hall (11-10-2020),Revering4Blue (11-10-2020)
I looked it up, and you're right. I forgot they were the 11 seed when they lost to Syracuse in 2016. Over the last two NCAA tournaments, they've underperformed.
2019-- As the top seed, lost to #3 seed Texas Tech
2018-- As the #4 seed, lost to #9 seed Florida State
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