COVID-19, Part 5 - the beat goes on.

[BernieCarbo]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/04/us-c...orial-day.html

Texas and Arizona have had pretty big spikes in their case average and also have had upticks in positive test %, hospitalizations and deaths since mid May. Florida is going the wrong direction in the last week, but hasn't had the spikes of the other two.

I read that article, but don't see any data about the number of tests. Isn't the number of cases meaningless if we don't know if testing increased or decreased?

[BuckeyeRed27]

I read that article, but don't see any data about the number of tests. Isn't the number of cases meaningless if we don't know if testing increased or decreased?

It's not meaningless, but it does lack some context. However before I posted it I did look at some other articles around the metrics that I posted and they are all up a bit to a lot in those 3 states.

[BernieCarbo]

Well, if I test 50,000 people in April and find 10,000 cases, and then I test 100,000 in May and find 20,000 cases, the cases doubled, but it's a meaningless number. I'm not beating up on you, but it really is lazy journalism. I know they are trying to come to some conclusion about the effect of opening up the economy, but that doesn't cut it.

[Sea Ray]

I read that article, but don't see any data about the number of tests. Isn't the number of cases meaningless if we don't know if testing increased or decreased?

I watch hospitalizations more than number of cases and on that front the news is good:

Coronavirus hospitalizations keep falling

https://www.axios.com/state-by-state...64355b291.html

[BuckeyeRed27]

Well, if I test 50,000 people in April and find 10,000 cases, and then I test 100,000 in May and find 20,000 cases, the cases doubled, but it's a meaningless number. I'm not beating up on you, but it really is lazy journalism. I know they are trying to come to some conclusion about the effect of opening up the economy, but that doesn't cut it.

You can look them up if you'd like. They all have an increase in positive test rates (the numerator and the denominator are both going up, but the numerator is going up faster) and more troubling is the increases in hospitalization rates and deaths, particularly in Arizona and Texas. It's also been about 100 degrees in both of those places since they reopened, which isn't great for the hot weather argument if that trend keeps up.

[bucksfan2]

Did you ever think your Aunt may have lived through some things that you haven't ?????

And that her views are shaped by her life experience not FOX News.

Or would you be just fine with someone saying your 2 cents is right out of the MSNBC playbook

Well yea she has lived through more, she is about 25 years older than me. But seen things I haven't, in my lifetime no.

From the second you walk into their house, if a sporting event isn't on, its Fox News. On vacations with them, fox news is on. I don't tend to get into debates, but her arguments are Tucker/Hanity arguments.

I don't watch MSNBC, I hardly ever watch cable news. Most of my news comes from WSJ and NPR with a little enquirer sprinkled in. I do like Anderson Cooper and Jake Tapper, but don't tune in more than once a month or so.

[Sea Ray]

Will the misinformation ever stop?

Authors retract study showing hydroxychloroquine was dangerous to hospitalized covid-19 patients

https://www.washingtonpost.com/natio...ve-updates-us/

[BuckeyeRed27]

I watch hospitalizations more than number of cases and on that front the news is good:

Coronavirus hospitalizations keep falling

https://www.axios.com/state-by-state...64355b291.html

It's mostly good. The falling numbers are largely from places that had big spikes (NY, NJ, MA, MI), which is what modeling told us to expect or from places like Ohio that have mostly been on a long slow plateau.

Places like Arizona and Texas didn't get those early spikes and are heading the wrong way now, so those bear watching for sure.

[Sea Ray]

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/04/us-c...orial-day.html

Texas and Arizona have had pretty big spikes in their case average and also have had upticks in positive test %, hospitalizations and deaths since mid May. Florida is going the wrong direction in the last week, but hasn't had the spikes of the other two.

That's not what the Governor is saying

Today Texas had the fewest #COVID19 hospitalizations in the past 6 weeks.

And, we now rank #1 in America for the most recoveries from COVID.

https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/st...02069678981121

[BuckeyeRed27]

That's not what the Governor is saying



https://twitter.com/GregAbbott_TX/st...02069678981121

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...pitalizations/

That's great, it isn't what the numbers are showing. They had a decline into their reopening last month and since that point the average has been going back up.

[BernieCarbo]

https://www.tmc.edu/coronavirus-upda...pitalizations/

That's great, it isn't what the numbers are showing. They had a decline into their reopening last month and since that point the average has been going back up.

Isn't that only for the TMC, and not all of Texas?

[BuckeyeRed27]

Isn't that only for the TMC, and not all of Texas?

You are correct thanks, although still makes up about 1/3 of the data since it's Houston.

https://dshs.texas.gov/coronavirus/additionaldata/

Here's the full Texas data, which is annoyingly in Excel format, but on the dashboard it looks like positive test rates and hospitalizations have picked up and tests have been essentially flat for a couple weeks.

[BuckeyeRed27]

https://www.azdhs.gov/preparedness/e...ards/index.php

This is the Arizona dashboard, which is not annoyingly in Excel format, and shows a pretty big uptick in hospitalizations.

[Rdirtypirates]

More healthy people are getting tested. At first our recorded cases were only people who were sick, because we only had tests for people with symptoms, so a relatively high percentage of those people died. Now we have more tests, and we're seeing more of the asymptomatic cases get counted.

I had to get a test today maybe it was the area or time of day, but there was no wait and showed little activity. I don't see any problems if you want tested in Ohio.

[kaldaniels]

Incoming...the WHO has updated mask guidelines. (Can’t post link right now)