COVID-19, Part 5 - the beat goes on.

[North]

2 positive trends for coronavirus in Ohio; fewer new cases reported, fewer patients hospitalized

https://www.cleveland.com/coronaviru...pitalized.html

[North]

Here's that new WHO mask link.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23C2B1

...in this corner,

[bucksfan2]

2 positive trends for coronavirus in Ohio; fewer new cases reported, fewer patients hospitalized

https://www.cleveland.com/coronaviru...pitalized.html

IMO patient hospitalizations are really the only way to judge Covid 19. Too many people have it but don't have the need to test. You are never going to get to the point where everyone is tested because there will be massive pushback.

[North]

[SteelSD]

Here's that new WHO mask link.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-h...-idUSKBN23C2B1

...in this corner,

They changed their instructional videos as well to isolate non-medical versus medical mask instructions.

Unfortunately, the guidance document link keeps throwing errors due to the amount of traffic. I figure that the traffic is probably due to the number of people worldwide who are attempting to download it, but the Fox Mulder in me really wants to believe that the site is experiencing a non-masker DDOS attack.

[ScotlandRed]

More healthy people are getting tested. At first our recorded cases were only people who were sick, because we only had tests for people with symptoms, so a relatively high percentage of those people died. Now we have more tests, and we're seeing more of the asymptomatic cases get counted.

Thank you that makes more sense.

[Sea Ray]

It appears to me that the WHO is responding to political pressure which would not surprise me. Interesting that they still say this:

The WHO says the widespread use of face masks or coverings by the general public is still not yet supported by high quality or direct scientific evidence.

Remember this the next time a liberal calls a conservative a science denier or something similar. This policy is not based on science. I don't know what it's based on or what has changed. As I've said many, many times, I don't know what or who to believe on C19 anymore.

I'll add one more thing. The public is not going to wear masks indefinitely. In fact cooperation is already starting to wane. I went into a small pet store yesterday. On the window it said that they require everyone in the store to wear a mask. I saw two employees. One had no mask at all on. Another had his mask pulled under his chin. I think we'll see more and more of this.

[dougdirt]

Jesus Tapdancing Christ

[Sea Ray]

Jesus Tapdancing Christ

Do you have any facts to bring to the conversation?

[kaldaniels]

Sea Ray is right that the WHO has sort of waffled on mask use. Ok.

But just because there is no double blind study etc. on mask wearing and the transmission of COVID, it does not make one anti/void of science if you believe people should wear masks. Deductive reasoning can be our friend. People often are positive for Corona and don’t know it. Wearing a mask blocks respiratory droplets when sneezing. It makes sense. True, it could be a negligible effect. But, it’s a better be safe than sorry situation at this point. We aren’t talking about an economy/society wrecking lockdown, we are talking about wearing a mask.

I don’t care, take your shots at the WHO. But to those (not you Sea Ray per se) who celebrate those who refuse to wear a mask, c’mon.

[Sea Ray]

There have been many studies on other viruses that show that wearing a mask does not do any good. It'd be quite a reach to say that this virus would be impeded by a mask whereas others were not. I think that's the issue the WHO is having with this

[SteelSD]

Sea Ray: "I trust the WHO because I think they're anti-mask!"

WHO: "Actually, we now recommend that everyone wear a mask in public."

Sea Ray: "Why would I do that? You're not trustworthy!"

Amazing how trusting some folks are when they *think* they're being told what they want to hear and how quickly trust evaporates when that changes.

[dougdirt]

Do you have any facts to bring to the conversation?

Yeah, I do.

[Sea Ray]

Sea Ray: "I trust the WHO when because I think they're anti-mask!"

WHO: "Actually, we now recommend that everyone wear a mask in public."

Sea Ray: "Why would I do that? You're not trustworthy!"

Amazing how trusting some folks are when they *think* they're being told what they want to hear and how quickly trust evaporates when that changes.

I would ask that you copy/paste my quotes in the future if you are going to attribute comments to me directly with a colon and quotation marks. Simply put your comments above were inaccurately attributed to me. I doubt you'd tolerate me doing the same to you

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Yeah, I do.

Great. Let's see them

[dougdirt]

It appears to me that the WHO is responding to political pressure which would not surprise me.

Here, man, I'll quote this from you and just let everyone who reads it understand exactly what you're doing.