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    Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Let me preface by saying, if this needs to be moved to the politics forum, feel free, but I don't think this should be particularly controversial.

    The news of the past couple weeks has sent me on a deep dive into literature that's helping me confront the realities of white supremacism in this country. I wanted to recommend a few of those books and invite others to share anything that's been helpful to them, either recently or over the years.

    The Fire Next Time, James Baldwin
    Between the World and Me, Ta-Nehisi Coates
    We Were Eight Years in Power, Ta-Nehisi Coates
    White Fragility, Robin DiAngelo
    Why We’re Polarized, Ezra Klein
    Anything Colson Whitehead
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Of course it should be in politics.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    I'd vote for the thread to stay here. There's nothing political about sharing resources and literature and it's okay if some people feel uncomfortable. I recently these ordered from a local bookstore:

    The New Jim Crow: Mass Incarceration in the Age of Colorblindedness by Michelle Alexander
    Stamped from the Beginning: The Definitive History of Racist Ideas in America by Ibram Kendi
    The Nickelboys by Colson Whitehead
    "In our sundown perambulations of late, through the outer parts of Brooklyn, we have observed several parties of youngsters playing 'base', a certain game of ball. Let us go forth awhile, and get better air in our lungs. Let us leave our close rooms, the game of ball is glorious"
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Racism presents itself equally in all colors.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Racism presents itself equally in all colors.
    What you say neither justifies it in any direction, nor should prevent us from addressing it in a specific direction.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    What you say neither justifies it in any direction, nor should prevent us from addressing it in a specific direction.
    Nor does any other form of coercion or intimidation or disrespectful act.
    "One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."

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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Nobody has the right to tell anyone else how to think.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Nobody has the right to tell anyone else how to think.
    No one is forcing anyone to think differently. But there is social pressure to act in a way that is more amenable, just, peaceable, and empathetic towards those who might differ from their in-group, especially when those differences are driven by natural factors outside of anyone's control.
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    My Grandfather's Son, by Clarence Thomas

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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Ralph Ellison - invisible man

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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    My hippie daughter sent me “Road Map for Revolutionaries: Resistance, Activism, and Advocacy for All” by Elisa Camahort Page, Carolyn Gerin, and Jamia Wilson. Pretty interesting.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism” - Robin DiAngelo

    “Me and White Supremacy” - Layla F. Saad
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    We Were Eight Years in Power, Ta-Nehisi Coates

    Don't bother.

    I'm waiting for his follow-up: "And a helluva lot a good it did us".

    I'd like to see Coates throw up FDR and LBJ to Obama. Yeah.

    Anyone who says "bodies" and "spaces" instead of people and places is a fraud. Cornell West is the real deal. Coates is an academic minstrel who dances for rich whites.
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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    “White Fragility: Why It’s So Hard for White People to Talk About Racism” - Robin DiAngelo
    Also, the meals I've never missed. Fragility!

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    Re: Resources for wrestling with racism in America

    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    We Were Eight Years in Power, Ta-Nehisi Coates

    Don't bother.

    I'm waiting for his follow-up: "And a helluva lot a good it did us".
    Haha you clearly didn’t make it past the title, or you’d know that could actually be a really apt subtitle for the book.

    Neat post though, very edgy!
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