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    Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

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    #Reds minor leaguer Vladimir Gutierrez was suspended 80 games for testing positive for Stanozolol.

    That takes care of this year. And maybe his career.
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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Cut him
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Maybe this is a dumb question, but his suspension can't begin until there are minor league games being played, correct?

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Maybe this is a dumb question, but his suspension can't begin until there are minor league games being played, correct?
    Probably.....?
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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    oh my what an epic tragedy he was destined to be the next ed sprague

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    What a bummer. So promising after his 2018 season. Wonder what the full story is.
    Games are won on run differential -- scoring more than your opponent. Runs are runs, scored or prevented they all count the same. Worry about scoring more and allowing fewer, not which positions contribute to which side of the equation or how "consistent" you are at your current level of performance.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsManRick View Post
    What a bummer. So promising after his 2018 season. Wonder what the full story is.
    He didn’t do it, He bought a supplement at GNC that had it in it or maybe another similar store. He would never do something like it.... that's usually the full story.
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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    Cut him
    If Driveline and Kyle Boddy are ever discovered to be a roid clinic you can ignore this but steroids go against the “intellectual route” the organization seems to be taking with pitchers. I get it, every extra edge helps...but I’d make an example of him entering the Boddy era.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    If Driveline and Kyle Boddy are ever discovered to be a roid clinic you can ignore this but steroids go against the “intellectual route” the organization seems to be taking with pitchers. I get it, every extra edge helps...but I’d make an example of him entering the Boddy era.
    Clearly you have never had a roid discussion with Kyle

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    If Driveline and Kyle Boddy are ever discovered to be a roid clinic you can ignore this but steroids go against the “intellectual route” the organization seems to be taking with pitchers. I get it, every extra edge helps...but I’d make an example of him entering the Boddy era.
    I bring him back when the suspension is over. You have a very good chance you having an enhanced pitcher on staff

    If you stay in touch with the latest research on roids and the lasting effect it has on the neuron count in the muscle fiber, you realize why guys like Nelson Cruz just don't seem to fall off a cliff when they come back. Even when you know the amount of testing they are undergoing is enhanced and it would be very hard to get away with taking a different steriod.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by jup View Post
    I bring him back when the suspension is over. You have a very good chance you having an enhanced pitcher on staff

    If you stay in touch with the latest research on roids and the lasting effect it has on the neuron count in the muscle fiber, you realize why guys like Nelson Cruz just don't seem to fall off a cliff when they come back. Even when you know the amount of testing they are undergoing is enhanced and it would be very hard to get away with taking a different steriod.
    I have no moral fiber on this by the way. I just want the best end result for the Reds. If this was Hunter Greene I welcome him back next year with open arms. I was about done with Vlad anyway in terms of my hopes for him.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I have no moral fiber on this by the way. I just want the best end result for the Reds. If this was Hunter Greene I welcome him back next year with open arms. I was about done with Vlad anyway in terms of my hopes for him.
    I used to be one of the - get rid of the cheater crowd - but over the years my opinion has changed.

    Now I look at it about winning and what gives the best possible odds for that. So count me in the no moral fiber crowd also.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Quote Originally Posted by kaldaniels View Post
    I have no moral fiber on this by the way. I just want the best end result for the Reds. If this was Hunter Greene I welcome him back next year with open arms. I was about done with Vlad anyway in terms of my hopes for him.
    Seems like a last chance ploy for a guy at the end of string. I don't have moral qualms with it either, but he's not worth a 40-man slot.
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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    Never had a problem with any athlete, After he has been injured, to use PED under Doctor care to help get back on the field and healthy. They can go off them once they are ready to come back and play.

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    Re: Vlad Guttierrez suspended 80 games for PEDs

    a little Winstrol never hurt anyone.....or any horses.
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