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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Quote Originally Posted by jup View Post
    Since the Indians look like they are bowing to social justice pressure, will the Reds be next ?

    https://www.todayifoundout.com/index...ond-red-scare/

    "In any event, the present day Cincinnati Reds’ name was inspired by the Cincinnati Red Stockings, even though they have no real connection with the Red Stockings other than being from the same town and initially naming themselves the same thing (the Cincinnati Red Stockings). However, when this latter organization moved from the American Association to the National League, they shortened the name to just “Reds”.

    This name stuck until 1953 when the association of the term “Reds” with communism caused the Reds to change their name to the “Redlegs” in order to avoid the social stigma. Further, for a four year stretch from 1956-1960, the name “Reds” was removed from the team’s logo and no longer appeared on the team’s uniforms. Despite the continued use of the changed logo, the name “Cincinnati Reds” was restored after the 1958 season.

    If you’re wondering where the term “Redlegs” came from, this was once a derogatory term used to refer to a specific group of poor white people living on various islands in the Caribbean (generally originally from Ireland and Scotland). They were also commonly known as “white slaves”. Some were in fact actual white slaves, having been taken by press gangs and transported to Barbados to be sold. Others were simply indentured servants, agreeing to work more or less as slaves for a time in exchange for transportation. It’s estimated around 50,000 of these Redlegs were transported from Ireland alone during the mid-17th century.

    So, apparently, the Reds preferred to associate themselves with slavery, rather than communism. Although, this is marginally fitting given the reserve clause that was in place at the time, which forbid a player from being able to play for any team but the one who owned the rights to him when his last contract expired, unless he was released or traded. This resulted in teams getting to set salaries nearly as low as they pleased and to completely control the careers of their baseball players. The only real negotiating tactic the players had at their disposal was to refuse to play baseball at all, which resulted in them not getting paid anything when they didn’t play and obviously wasn’t a good tactic for players who weren’t stars."

    Or does slavery of people not count if they are from the British Isles


    Way to try and hide your political agenda and bias into a fake baseball post.


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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    I'm hoping the extended layoff has helped with that.
    lol. If the 7 months Downtime didn’t help, do you really think 10 months is the magic number?

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Bobby Nightengale
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    Pitching coach Derek Johnson says Trevor Bauer starting every 4th day is 100% on the table. #Reds

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

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    Those colors...

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

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    Bobby Nightengale
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    Pitching coach Derek Johnson says Trevor Bauer starting every 4th day is 100% on the table. #Reds
    No surprise there.

    If he comes to camp like normal, he is usually close to mid season form from day 1. But who knows given the craziness of this year.
    Last edited by jup; 07-04-2020 at 02:17 PM.

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Luis Castillo says he's been in Cincinnati since leaving Arizona and working with Lee Tunnell,said he threw bullpens at
    @XavierBASE
    during the shutdownAsked how many innings he could throw in a start today, Castillo said he could go pitch 6 or 7 innings
    From C.Trent

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Intriguing to have Bauer on a 4 man rotation. But how would they juggle the rest to make it work? Just fiddling with it, here are 30 games with Bauer going on 3 days rest. Everyone else has to go on 5 days rest every so often to keep Bauer on his rotation. Bauer gets 8 starts. Castillo and Gray are at 6 starts. For a full 60 games Bauer would get 16 starts and Castillo/Gray 12?

    Bauer 1
    Castillo 1
    Sonny 1
    Disco 1
    Bauer 2
    Miley 1
    Castillo 2 (4 days rest)
    Sonny 2 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 3
    Disco 2 (5 days rest) *
    Miley 2 (4 days rest)
    Castillo 3 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 4
    Sonny 3 (5 days rest) *
    Disco 3 (4 days rest)
    Miley 3 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 5
    Castillo 4 (5 days rest) *
    Sonny 4 (4 days rest)
    Disco 4 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 6
    Miley 4 (5 days rest) *
    Castillo 5 (4 days rest)
    Sonny 5 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 7
    Disco 5 (5 days rest) *
    Miley 5 (4 days rest)
    Castillo 6 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 8
    Sonny 6 (5 days rest) *

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Nice work on that. I really find it hard to believe they will do that.
    Bud Selig: "I'm the worst commissioner ever"
    Rob Manfred: "Hold my beer"

    https://redsintelligence.com/smforum/index.php

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Quote Originally Posted by UPRedsFan View Post
    Intriguing to have Bauer on a 4 man rotation. But how would they juggle the rest to make it work? Just fiddling with it, here are 30 games with Bauer going on 3 days rest. Everyone else has to go on 5 days rest every so often to keep Bauer on his rotation. Bauer gets 8 starts. Castillo and Gray are at 6 starts. For a full 60 games Bauer would get 16 starts and Castillo/Gray 12?

    Bauer 1
    Castillo 1
    Sonny 1
    Disco 1
    Bauer 2
    Miley 1
    Castillo 2 (4 days rest)
    Sonny 2 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 3
    Disco 2 (5 days rest) *
    Miley 2 (4 days rest)
    Castillo 3 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 4
    Sonny 3 (5 days rest) *
    Disco 3 (4 days rest)
    Miley 3 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 5
    Castillo 4 (5 days rest) *
    Sonny 4 (4 days rest)
    Disco 4 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 6
    Miley 4 (5 days rest) *
    Castillo 5 (4 days rest)
    Sonny 5 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 7
    Disco 5 (5 days rest) *
    Miley 5 (4 days rest)
    Castillo 6 (4 days rest)
    Bauer 8
    Sonny 6 (5 days rest) *
    Sounds like Castillo is ready.

    Guess it depends on how prepared Gray, Disco and Miley are. If one or more of them needs to be brought along a little slower, having Bauer on 4 in the early part of the season makes sense.

    PS - missed days off, and there will be quite a few of them. So either someone gets skipped or everyone gets pushed.

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Live BP on feed now. Pitchers vs Batters. Current Rotation Votto, Suarez, Winker vs Castillo, Lorenzen.

    https://twitter.com/Reds?ref_src=tws...Ctwgr%5Eauthor
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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Lance McAlister
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    Excited to really start ramping up #Reds talk on
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    Sports Talk. Topics tonight center on
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    You will hear from each tonight.
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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Bobby Nightengale
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    David Bell says the #Reds will do 3 innings of a controlled scrimmage today. More innings tomorrow.

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Cincinnati Reds
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    We've got lineups!

    Watch our first #Reds Summer Camp intrasquad scrimmage (3 innings) live beginning at 4pm ET on Reds Twitter, Facebook or YouTube.
    https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EcbBs1LX...jpg&name=large
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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    It's funny to say this about a 3-inning intrasquad scrimmage game, but I'm excited to watch it.

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    Re: Reds storylines heading into camp

    Two lineups to complain about !!!
    Bud Selig: "I'm the worst commissioner ever"
    Rob Manfred: "Hold my beer"

    https://redsintelligence.com/smforum/index.php

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