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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    Is there any chance pitchers have found a "sticky substance" that enhances spin rate that has yet to be discovered by The Powers that Be?

    ALL POWERS TO BE
    know there is a sticky problem and has been FOR YEARS.

    All managers and GM's know it is used and DO NOTHING to dissuade it. Usually there is a place in the clubhouse (up to maybe this year) where the pitchers keep all their concoctions right out in the open. Maybe 30 little bottles or jars of their particular "sticky". No manger has been willing to call out the other team, and have an ump check a pitcher (except in very extreme cases - Pineada) because they will get it called on them and they know that at least 3/4 of their staff uses something.

    So in short, they don't need to find a "secret" sticky, because no one is trying to conceal it anymore than they already have been (for years out on the playing field).

    The difference now is there has been technological advances that can now measure spin rate, and correlate to statistical information that allows for the analysis of the impact it has. Bauer being one of the lead authorities and guys doing research in this area for close to a decade now.
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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    I have it on good authority that Bauer keeps a tub of this in his locker.

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    BTW, just because I was bored, I tried to reduce the numbers to rotations a pitch. Using 90 MPH as average(I realize this is just arbitrary but should give me something close) I come up with the Reds getting 19.04 rotations a pitch while the league average is 17.67. That's close to 1.5 rotations difference and would be very significant since a 90 MPH pitch would takes about .46 of a second to get from mound to home plate(probably less since the release point is closer to home plate than the 60.6 feet I used(meaning even more significant).

    If someone else isn't bored, can you let me know if my numbers are close?

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    But to whom does one go to learn this spin?

    I'm not a system player. I am a system.

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    But to whom does one go to learn this spin?

    I take back all seventeen years of nice things I've said about you.
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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by jup View Post

    ALL POWERS TO BE
    know there is a sticky problem and has been FOR YEARS.

    All managers and GM's know it is used and DO NOTHING to dissuade it. Usually there is a place in the clubhouse (up to maybe this year) where the pitchers keep all their concoctions right out in the open. Maybe 30 little bottles or jars of their particular "sticky". No manger has been willing to call out the other team, and have an ump check a pitcher (except in very extreme cases - Pineada) because they will get it called on them and they know that at least 3/4 of their staff uses something.

    So in short, they don't need to find a "secret" sticky, because no one is trying to conceal it anymore than they already have been (for years out on the playing field).

    The difference now is there has been technological advances that can now measure spin rate, and correlate to statistical information that allows for the analysis of the impact it has. Bauer being one of the lead authorities and guys doing research in this area for close to a decade now.
    I really appreciate your insight into this. Thanks.
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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by wheels View Post
    I take back all seventeen years of nice things I've said about you.
    I knew it was wrong when I did it ... and I didn't care.

    Like, if you've lived a bad life and you go to some metaphysical plane where you are punished for eternity, they play Spin Doctors, right?
    I'm not a system player. I am a system.

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I knew it was wrong when I did it ... and I didn't care.

    Like, if you've lived a bad life and you go to some metaphysical plane where you are punished for eternity, they play Spin Doctors, right?
    Stop... it's like Kryptonite

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by westofyou View Post
    Stop... it's like Kryptonite
    Only a pocketful. Could be worse; could be Will to Power.
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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I knew it was wrong when I did it ... and I didn't care.

    Like, if you've lived a bad life and you go to some metaphysical plane where you are punished for eternity, they play Spin Doctors, right?
    You are overthinking this.......They'd be playing Rap.

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    Re: Reds Secret? Tons Of Spin

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    I knew it was wrong when I did it ... and I didn't care.

    Like, if you've lived a bad life and you go to some metaphysical plane where you are punished for eternity, they play Spin Doctors, right?
    With Three Doors Down as the opening act.
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