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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by WildcatFan View Post
    I guess I get that. My point in my original response was that it certainly didn't look like the Reds were coming into the season with a bunch of castoff relievers expecting big things (which has too often been the situation lately). They got bad outings from guys I certainly thought could be relied upon. Anyway, that ship seems to be righting itself a bit.
    I’d say it was both to start the season. But agree that it does seem to have been worked out for now.
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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Iglesias
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    Antone

    These four can do it.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Much appreciation to Lorenzen last night...which has not been uttered much by me this season!

    5, 4 and 1 with 6 Ks and 0 BB? Team needed that. And I'd say he needed it too.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by zigbeenuthouse View Post
    Iglesias
    Sims
    Garrett
    Antone

    These four can do it.
    Don't forget about Archie. It's not a terrible group but none of them are lock-down guys.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by WildcatFan View Post
    I agree with this in principle, but I'm not sure that was the case this season. The relievers I would consider "bounce-back" (Raley, Reed, maybe Kuhnel?) pitched a grand total of 11 1/3 innings in the first 15 games or so. The bigger problems came from established guys like Lorenzen, Jones, and Iglesias.
    Iglesias, Strop, Garrett, Jones were al bounce back guys as well. Reed, Sims and Stephenson were unproven. The only guy coming off of a strong 2019 was Lorenzen.
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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Don't forget about Archie. It's not a terrible group but none of them are lock-down guys.
    Absolutely. Not terrible but gotta hope they seize this moment and come through.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Bobby Nightengale
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    #Reds playoff odds after winning 4 straight games:
    Fangraphs - 44.8%
    Baseball Reference - 42.1%
    Baseball Prospectus - 52.8%
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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    If the Reds and Cardinals tie for the final playoff spot at .500 (Reds would have to go 6-4, Cardinals 8-7), St. Louis holds the tiebreaker. There are other teams involved, and so the prior scenario is unlikely. However, this is Cincinnati sports.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by texasdave View Post
    If the Reds and Cardinals tie for the final playoff spot at .500 (Reds would have to go 6-4, Cardinals 8-7), St. Louis holds the tiebreaker. There are other teams involved, and so the prior scenario is unlikely. However, this is Cincinnati sports.
    By my count, the Cardinals will only play 58 games. In a normal season the games lost would be played if necessary. If they tie the Reds, would that be the case this year?

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    By my count, the Cardinals will only play 58 games. In a normal season the games lost would be played if necessary. If they tie the Reds, would that be the case this year?
    I was wondering that too. I forget what they decided, wasn't it by winning %? Wouldn't that mean Reds would hold the tiebreaker over the Cards since they would have more wins?

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    It seems that the door is open for Cards to play one or two more games (59 and 60) if necessary on Monday 9/28. Apparently two games against Detroit were not rescheduled. I have not read anything definitive on it, just that a date is open if needed.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by RedsBrick View Post
    Much appreciation to Lorenzen last night...which has not been uttered much by me this season!

    5, 4 and 1 with 6 Ks and 0 BB? Team needed that. And I'd say he needed it too.
    Lorenzen passed DeSclafani on the depth chart in my mind. I want Disco to be skipped this next start and for Lorenzen to start on normal rest. I hope that Sonny can come back when first eligible so we do not have to see another Disco start this year.

    7 HR allowed in Disco's last five starts with a 15:14 K:BB ratio means a 11.57 ERA, 9.20 FIP and 6.93 xFIP. Lorenzen has proven that he can get the job done and DeSclafani needs to take a seat. Let's not forget that three of those five starts were against the worst offense in MLB.

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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    It seems that the door is open for Cards to play one or two more games (59 and 60) if necessary on Monday 9/28. Apparently two games against Detroit were not rescheduled. I have not read anything definitive on it, just that a date is open if needed.
    I am sure Detroit would be super excited about having to stick around a couple games to see if the Cardinals can make the playoffs. Hopefully we can be in a position that if we lost a tiebreaker, we could still have a record good enough for a wild card spot.
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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitri View Post
    Don't forget about Archie. It's not a terrible group but none of them are lock-down guys.
    hopefully Bell doesn’t forget Archie, like he has so far.
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    Re: 2020 Playoff Push

    Quote Originally Posted by RED VAN HOT View Post
    By my count, the Cardinals will only play 58 games. In a normal season the games lost would be played if necessary. If they tie the Reds, would that be the case this year?
    If the Cards play 2 less games, unless they both finish .500 there could be no tie, as their winning % would be different. Now if they both finished one or more games below .500, the Reds would have the better winning %, if they both finished one or more games above .500, the Cards would have the better winning %.

    But I believe the Cards would have to make up any games that has a barring on playoffs.


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