Far be it for me to stick up for the Boomers but I see more “COVID fear” from millennials/Gen-X people myself. The healthy Boomers (who certainly lean right where I am) are the open-it-up crowd.
YMMV I’m sure.
Far be it for me to stick up for the Boomers but I see more “COVID fear” from millennials/Gen-X people myself. The healthy Boomers (who certainly lean right where I am) are the open-it-up crowd.
YMMV I’m sure.
alwaysawarrior (10-26-2020),Falls City Beer (10-25-2020)
Totally cool, I definitely wasn't trying to attack the boomers. The will to live is strong. Every generation may end up acting the same way just due to survival instinct alone.
Curious what you mean by "COVID fear" though. I was speaking more to "the powers that be" dictating policy.
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Falls City Beer (10-25-2020)
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757690 (10-25-2020),Kinsm (10-25-2020),mth123 (10-25-2020),Revering4Blue (10-25-2020)
And, for those not inclined to bury their heads in the sand, COVID case numbers (based on a 7-day rolling average) in the U.S. have increased 57.7% over the past three weeks. Sure enough, death numbers are now starting to spike again in the wake of that, up 17% over the past week. We've seen the same pattern play out twice already and it's happening again. Main difference is this time it's grabbing the whole nation at the same time rather than various regions.
Last edited by M2; 10-25-2020 at 02:09 PM.
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New Zealand was the most “absurd” about it, and now they have life pretty much back to normal. Australian is being praised for how it has handled the pandemic and is about to lift it’s lockdown. Here’s a good article on them.
https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/21/austr...hnk/index.html
These other countries did it right, strict, targeted lockdowns that got the spread down to nearly zero, and then opened things back up. When they see a spike, the do another targeted lockdown.
You may think that it would suck to live in such a place, but I am guessing they are all glad they don’t live in the US, where the pandemic is still spreading, and we are still in a partial lockdown.
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M2 (10-25-2020)
Restrictions and all that are one thing, the stuff that’s like curfews or restrictions on how far you’re allowed to travel away from your home, or one person is allowed to leave once a day per household, that stuff is ridiculous and hasn’t even prevented those regions from having spikes. That’s the kind of stuff that’s too draconian for me.
If I hadn’t had the ability to make a calculated decision to see a small group of friends the last few months or have outdoor dining or go to therapy in person, I would have legit killed myself at some point over the summer.
I am extremely grateful I don’t live in Ireland or Melbourne.
Last edited by Wonderful Monds; 10-25-2020 at 03:13 PM.
alwaysawarrior (10-26-2020),Falls City Beer (10-25-2020),redhawkfish (10-25-2020)
It does really suck that pretty much every restaurant in the city has already given up on outdoor eating. Even places that bought heaters for their patios aren’t even attempting to use them. Hamilton county is about to hit purple for the first time, so I imagine restaurants are going to spread it like wildfire.
M2 (10-25-2020)
But eating at sports bars did not lead to retirement home outbreaks. There is absolutely no way that Dewine will shut down restaurants again. Even if indoor seating was eliminated, that would not prevent private gatherings, which is where most of the outbreaks are coming from now anyway. At least when people get together to watch a game somewhere, it is in a place where someone is sanitizing, there is good ventilation, and people are spread out, unlike in a man cave.
1. Island countries have built-in advantages that other regions (ie the United States, EU) simply don't have.
2. A lot of these restrictions/lockdowns in place throughout the world aren't possible in the United States. It's not even about the public's willingness to accept it (they likely wouldn't), but rather the Constitution.
State of emergency exceptions have worked in nearly every state. I’m not sure why it wouldn’t work on a federal level. But even they didn’t, the federal government, in coordination with the experts, unrolling a large, loud campaign to shut down state by state, would have been well received and enforced by nearly every state.
When we remember that nearly all the cases were happening in NYC at the beginning, it’s not controversial to believe that this pandemic could have been controlled had we re-acted quickly and decisively as soon as we learned about it. But it required national leadership from the beginning which we still haven’t received.
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