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    2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    I guess it's that time of year for a thread where we can post and discuss any and all Reds off-season news. You never know it could be interesting.


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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

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    Dick Williams says he expects all the #Reds coaching staff coming back. "They deserve every chance to come back." Williams said "this is a year they should be proud of."
    Loser mentality unless hes playing possum. A slap in the face to fans to run Zinter back with his past results and the results of this season.
    Last edited by HammerTime; 10-02-2020 at 04:33 PM.

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Was that Dick Williams or Mike Brown saying that?



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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Was that Dick Williams or Mike Brown saying that?
    I'm starting to think there the same person
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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    From Nightengale Twitter

    Dick Williams says there are still a lot of unknowns with next year's payroll, so can't say if it'll be higher or lower than this year. Williams added Bob Castellini is committed to giving them as many resources as possible. #Reds
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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Bell said hitters likely will show better in a traditional 162-game season.

    “Where we came up short was stringing together hits at times during the season,” he said. “You can look at the defensive positioning, you can look at hard hit balls that didn’t go for hits, but it’s something we’ve got to take a close look at.”
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/sport...021/114206472/

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by UKFlounder View Post
    Was that Dick Williams or Mike Brown saying that?
    What's the difference?
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    From Nightengale Twitter

    Dick Williams says there are still a lot of unknowns with next year's payroll, so can't say if it'll be higher or lower than this year. Williams added Bob Castellini is committed to giving them as many resources as possible. #Reds
    I translate this to mean, we'll pay up to keep Bauer if he'll stay, but if he walks, we aren't spending that money elsewhere. Purely my own assumption.
    "All I can tell them is pick a good one and sock it." --BABE RUTH

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    I am happy to see Williams saying Reds will take a “close look” at the hitting issues.

    Given the talent level, the Reds hitting stats are difficult to believe.

    .212 BA. .204 road BA. .245 BABIP. More walks than singles. 57 homers at home, 33 on road (despite two additional road games).

    Along with a number of individual performances bearing no relation to player history, Votto hitting .226; Suarez .202; Castellanos .225. Winker with 25% K rate.

    Some study is in order.

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Last edited by Ron Madden; 10-03-2020 at 01:02 AM.

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Gotta admit that an up the middle of TySteve, Garcia, India, and Senzel is rather interesting to me. Not sure if it will come together in 21, 22, or ever, it's something to dream on.

    I also think Andrelton Simmons makes the most sense to sign in case Garcia isn't ready.
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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    So over on the Athletic today, Keith Law, who says he doesn't have a ballot this year, posted what would be his ballot for player awards. I guess it is a good thing for Bauer he isn't voting this year

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    5th - behind Burns and Fried who didn't even have enough innings pitched as starters to qualify, Fried who also was 1 full fWAR behind Bauer (1.5 versus 2.5), deGrom (who said after his last start that he had lost the Cy and Bauer maybe Darvish should win it) whose ERA was more than half run worse than Bauer's (2.38 vrs 1.73), etc. etc. etc.

    There are a lot of writers out there that hate Bauer, and if they have ballots and vote like Law (an avid Bauer hater), it sure isn't going to help Bauer's candidacy. You can legitimately put Darvish at the top if you are willing to ignore that he got one more start this year than Bauer, and maybe run deGrom up there to third, but to push Bauer to 5th behind anybody other than Darvish is just a joke. Yet many ballots will come back just like this one.
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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    I absolutely hate the term “SJW” and think it’s overused by a lot of a-holes in our society.

    With that said: Law is peak middle aged upper middle class white dude over-compensating SJW.

    Guaransheed he put Bauer at 5 because he disagrees with Bauer socially. GUARANSHEED.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I absolutely hate the term “SJW” and think it’s overused by a lot of a-holes in our society.

    With that said: Law is peak middle aged upper middle class white dude over-compensating SJW.

    Guaransheed he put Bauer at 5 because he disagrees with Bauer socially. GUARANSHEED.
    In Law's case, Bauer is probably even lucky he made it on to what would have been his ballot period. Wouldn't surprise me a bit to see his name missing completely on the "less than tall" idiot's list

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    The last 102 won’t matter much after the first
    60 hitting.

    Wishful thinking.
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