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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    That's the hidden story line in this to me. I've seen the 'must protect' list for this years Rule 5. Not many names that scream "protect". So it seems like Krall is creating a LOT of roster spots. What does he intend to do with them?
    Sign Bauer, Simien, Springer, Realmuto and LeMahieu of course.


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    Read your own earlier post. “Keep em starting as long as possible.” As if the role is the driving force.

    My friend, you have it backwards.

    If they kept Kuhnel starting he would be Kuhnel. You don’t change the prospect by “keeping him starting.”
    You move a guy to the bullpen because he doesn't have the pitch assortment to start or he doesn't have the stamina to maintain his stuff over multiple inning or because his pitch quality isn't good enough to get guys out multiple times in the same game. If that had to occur in the low minors, it doesn't bode well for success in the big leagues. If guys who can only hit fastballs on A Ball get to you after a couple of innings, the chances of big league success is pretty low. So a guy who has already been moved to the pen at a low level needs to be viewed with that perspective.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    Kuhnel is a bit of a surprise. Just goes to show, minor league relievers aren't really great prospects. Keep 'em starting as long as possible.
    However you want to spin it now, this was your post in full. As if Kuhnel’s fate was because Reds didn’t “keep ‘em starting.”

    Kuhnel’s fate is because of how he’s pitched and his potential. Not because Reds didn’t “keep ‘em starting.”
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    Quote Originally Posted by mth123 View Post
    You move a guy to the bullpen because he doesn't have the pitch assortment to start or he doesn't have the stamina to maintain his stuff over multiple inning or because his pitch quality isn't good enough to get guys out multiple times in the same game. If that had to occur in the low minors, it doesn't bode well for success in the big leagues. If guys who can only hit fastballs on A Ball get to you after a couple of innings, the chances of big league success is pretty low. So a guy who has already been moved to the pen at a low level needs to be viewed with that perspective.
    From Tampa Bay Rays and LA Dodgers. These are the minor league appearances of some relievers we are watching in the World Series. Seven prominent guys, all were primarily minor league relievers -

    Nick Anderson - 134 games, 4 starts.
    Pete Fairbanks - 86 games, 29 starts.
    Ryan Thompson - 162 games, 5 starts.
    Diego Castillo - 145 games, 1 start.
    John Curtiss - 173 games, 15 starts.
    Kensley Jansen - 58 games, 7 starts.
    Pedro Baez- 97 games, 1 start.

    It’s not that rare today. Baseball is flooded with effective relief arms today. Some are minor league starters, some minor league relievers, some a combination.
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    I think people are going to be shocked by how little many players get this offseason. I just read how the league is saying (books are closed so no one can verify) they lost billions this year. I've already heard multiple teams (and not just the usual suspects of Cleveland, Pitt etc..) talk about lowering payroll. I've heard reports on the Cubs, Rangers, Milwaukee and others talking about lowering payroll. My guess is 2/3s of the teams in MLB have a lower payroll next year than in 2020. If true, it will be a bloodbath in the market and with DFA's.

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    And maybe that's Krall's plan. To snatch up good ball players on the cheap.
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    #Reds' Nick Castetllanos now has until midnight at Friday to decide about his option with the team for 2021, FWIW

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    And maybe that's Krall's plan. To snatch up good ball players on the cheap.
    One-year contracts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    And maybe that's Krall's plan. To snatch up good ball players on the cheap.
    That'd be awesome, but I imagine the Reds are in the same financial boat as everyone else.

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    Trevor Bauer, Anthony DeSclafani, Freddy Galvis and Tyler Thornburg are officially free agents. #Reds
    Reds have 5 days to offer Bauer a QO.

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    Gratitude + Forgiveness = Happiness

    US Covid as of 01/21/2021
    Total cases: 25,196,086
    New cases: 193,758
    Total deaths: 420,285
    New deaths: 4,363
    Vaccinations: 18.4M doses

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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Reds have 5 days to offer Bauer a QO.
    Reds forty man roster is at 32.

    Friday night midnight Castellanos must declare on his player option (C Trent twitter).

    Sunday November 1 is the last day for qualifying offers to be made.

    November 20 date by which players can be protected from Rule 5 draft.

    December 2 non-tender deadline for arbitration players.

    December 6-10 Winter Meetings.
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    Re: 2020-2021 Off-Season News, Notes and Discussion

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    Reds have 5 days to offer Bauer a QO.
    Same timeframe on whether to offer a QO to DeSclafani, Galvis and Thornburg. All 3 are also eligible.

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