...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
Ron Madden (10-04-2020)
It is just a bad situation all the way around. I can't blame Joey. When his value was high he signed a long term contract and took more money on the back end of the contract because that is what the organization wanted. Now he is getting to be an advanced age for a player and his skills are diminishing. The organization knew it would happen when they signed him to a 12 year contract at the age of 29. Now we have to suffer through his diminished hitting and defensive skills as fans. It is tough and I don't enjoy it but in the end I think it is unrealistic to expect Joey to walk away from 75 million plus a 7 million dollar buyout. I wouldn't do it and no one on here would either.
alwaysawarrior (10-26-2020),REDREAD (10-23-2020),WrongVerb (10-18-2020)
Votto isn’t a good/great player anymore. But let’s look at the bright side.
He had an .800 OPS season and was on pace for ~30 HR year if this were a 162 game year. His hitting improved this year (short season) from 2019 and his power dramatically ticked up.
That’s not what you want to be spending 25 million a year on but penciling that into the lineup everyday shouldn’t sink a team.
I’m hoping he cleans up his defense as sadly his poor play usually seems to be of the mental variety.
Now if next year he is playing poorly and really hurting the team I have no problem in doing what is necessary.
*BaseClogger* (10-20-2020),alwaysawarrior (10-26-2020),mth123 (10-19-2020)
On a very long LTC you expect the player to be diminished later on. Reds have acknowledged this by adding other middle-of-the-order hitters.
Joey still hit .800 OPS last year. BA was lower, but that’s true for the whole team. I see it mostly as a matter of team approach at the plate in combination with the shift.
He’s fallen off defensively but I think it’s being exaggerated. A high percentage of the plays are still made.
I’d find ways to give Joey more days off and more DH days. Reduce his first base time while generally keeping him in the lineup. See how it goes from there.
Last edited by Kc61; 10-23-2020 at 10:37 AM.
*BaseClogger* (10-23-2020),Mitri (10-23-2020),REDREAD (10-23-2020)
I think Votto needs many DH days, and also a day off about once per week. If Castellanos stays, it might make sense to give him a bunch of starts at 1B, and some DH time as well. There's a way to keep Votto fresh and keep productive hitters like Castellanos and Winker in the lineup most days (as long as the DH is made permanent). A creative rotation of Votto/Castellanos at 1B, Winker/Castellanos in RF and all three at DH could be a winner.
As far as I can tell, Castellanos has never played 1B professionally. Yeah, I know he's a former third baseman, but considering we still aren't sure what spring training is going to look like, is it in the teams best interest for him to learn a new position before opening day 2021? Considering how he struggled after his hot start this year, I'd think you really just need him concentrating on getting his swing back plus trying to improve in right field.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
texasdave (10-23-2020)
What criteria in fangraphs did you use?
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders.as...ate=2020-12-31
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
This is of little consequence.
By far, most of the infield plays got made with no problem from first base.
Not every stat is make-or-break. First base is not a premium defensive position. Can live with Votto there if they give him enough rest and occasional DH stints.
Last edited by Kc61; 10-23-2020 at 05:12 PM.
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