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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    amzing ford did not start game 1 of 1960 world series art ditmar did


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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    You could put together a pretty good 25-man roster of players who have died in 2020:

    Lineup (8)
    C Hal W. Smith
    1B Bob Watson
    2B Frank Bolling
    3B Tony Taylor (was primarily a 2B, but also played 3B)
    SS Tony Fernandez
    LF Lou Brock
    CF Jimmy Wynn
    RF Al Kaline

    Bench (7)
    C Don Pavletich
    1B Bob Oliver
    2B Glenn Beckert
    2B Damaso Garcia
    SS Eddie Kasko
    OF Jay Johnstone
    OF Claudell Washington

    Rotation (5)
    Tom Seaver
    Bob Gibson
    Whitey Ford
    Johnny Antonelli
    Mike McCormick

    Bullpen (5)
    Ron Perranoski
    Don Larsen
    Ed Farmer
    Bob Lee
    Adrian Devine
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Probable batting order:

    Brock lf
    Fernandez ss
    Kaline rf
    Wynn cf
    Watson 1b
    Bolling 2b
    Taylor 3b
    Smith c
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    The remainder of the 40-man roster:

    P Matt Keough
    P Bart Johnson
    P Dick Hyde
    P Ed Sprague
    P Bobby Locke
    P Howie Judson

    C Biff Pocoroba
    C Ed FitzGerald

    2B Horace Clarke
    INF Ramon Aviles
    3B Kim Batiste

    OF Gil Coan
    OF Lou Johnson
    OF Carroll Hardy
    OF/1B Angel Echevarria
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Berenyi View Post
    amzing ford did not start game 1 of 1960 world series art ditmar did
    Casey Stengel manipulated his starting rotation in the regular season in part to be able to use Ford more against the Yankees primary challengers. He also limited the number of innings Ford pitched, which possibly was a smart move with a then young pitcher. When Ralph Houck replaced Stengel as Yankees manager prior to the 1961 season he had Ford pitch every fourth game as a regular rotation, giving Ford as many as 39 starts. Ford responded with his only 2 twenty win seasons, going 25-4 in 1961 and 24-7 in 1963.
    I can understand why Stengel did what he did with Ford in the regular season. However I'm mystified by his use of Ford in the World Series. He sometimes started Ford on as little as two days rest, and in another Series didn't start Ford in game seven even though he had four days of rest. His holding back Ford from a start until game 3 in the 1960 World Series lead to his firing. Ford threw two shutouts against the Pirates in the Series, but by being held back until game 3 he was unable to make a third start in game seven.
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    yes JIm Coates was bombed in game 7,,wound up on reds could have been on Klu's roster

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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    You could put together a pretty good 25-man roster of players who have died in 2020:

    Lineup (8)
    C Hal W. Smith
    1B Bob Watson
    2B Frank Bolling
    3B Tony Taylor (was primarily a 2B, but also played 3B)
    SS Tony Fernandez
    LF Lou Brock
    CF Jimmy Wynn
    RF Al Kaline

    Bench (7)
    C Don Pavletich
    1B Bob Oliver
    2B Glenn Beckert
    2B Damaso Garcia
    SS Eddie Kasko
    OF Jay Johnstone
    OF Claudell Washington

    Rotation (5)
    Tom Seaver
    Bob Gibson
    Whitey Ford
    Johnny Antonelli
    Mike McCormick

    Bullpen (5)
    Ron Perranoski
    Don Larsen
    Ed Farmer
    Bob Lee
    Adrian Devine
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    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    You have a new second baseman.
    Yep.

    I think they have decided they want to win it all.

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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Ford was the ace of those Yankee staffs of the 50's and 60's. A truly great and clutch pitcher. At one time he held the record for most wins in the World Series. Maybe he still does? Not many are left from that era. RIP Whitey Ford.
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    In 1961 Ford threw 283 innings, yet had “only” 11 complete games.

    He was 25-4.

    The secret weapon was Luis Arroyo, the first “closer” I can remember from watching baseball.

    Arroyo was 15-5, 2.19 ERA, threw 119 innings, and finished 54 games for the Yanks that year.

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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by Kc61 View Post
    In 1961 Ford threw 283 innings, yet had “only” 11 complete games.

    He was 25-4.

    The secret weapon was Luis Arroyo, the first “closer” I can remember from watching baseball.

    Arroyo was 15-5, 2.19 ERA, threw 119 innings, and finished 54 games for the Yanks that year.
    How many games did Arroyo not finish or how many did he appear in?
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    Quote Originally Posted by mhs95_06 View Post
    How many games did he not finish or how many did he appear in?
    Pitched 65 games to lead the league; finished 54 to lead the league. Saved 29 to lead the league.

    The 1961 Yankees, with the Maris/Mantle homer race, were a great team. Reds were a worthy WS opponent, but Yanks were not very beatable that season.
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    Re: RIP Whitey Ford

    arroyo was a red player originally

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