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    most underrated reds

    Joe Nolan catcher batted .300 twice in both years with reds
    ron robinsonn filled all roles well
    clay carroll very dependable
    tom hall outstanding

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Fred Norman 1970s.
    Gordy Coleman early 1960s.
    Jose Iglesias 2019.
    Tony Fernandez 1994.
    Rob Murphy 1980ís.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Pinson. The fact that he isn't in the HOF given some of the guys that have made it recently (looking at you, Harold Baines) is crazy.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    murphy like robinson was misused by the managerial genius of pete rose

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bruce Berenyi View Post
    murphy like robinson was misused by the managerial genius of pete rose
    163 games over two seasons? No problem.

    Murphy was one of my favorite Reds’ relievers.

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    I think rose had a bet down and always used murphy

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Billy Hatcher, if for no other reason than his performance in the '90 WS. Rijo won the MVP but it should've been Hatcher.

    .750/.800/1.250/2.050. 9-for-12, 4 doubles, a triple, 2 RBI, 2 BB, 6 runs scored, no Ks.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Hatcher and Norman are good ones. Norman is probably the most overlooked key guy in my years watching.

    Mariano Duncan, Jeff Treadway (wish the Reds had a bench player like him now), Eddie Milner, Dave Collins

    Nationally, I thought Don Gullett didn't get enough love on those 70s teams. Leo Cardenas was really a good player that has gotten overshadowed by Concepcion and Larkin.
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    Re: most underrated reds

    cardenas was good and almost tied game 3 of the world series , traded for the great jim merritt

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    Kal Daniels (86-88) and Kevin Mitchell (93-96). They were unbelievable when they were healthy and in the batters box, which was only about 60% of the time (if memory serves me).
    They were comparable (he was still better, but only marginally) to Pedro Guerrero, who was the top hitter in MLB (in my opinion) from 82-87. They were better hitters, not all around players, than Davis or Larkin during those few years.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Billingham,Nolan several members of the BRM pitching staffs were underrated.
    Kal Daniels. Joe Price. Bip Roberts. Frank Williams.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Danny Driessen had a Red OPS+ 15% better than league average, while playing a solid 1B. He played 12 years in the Queen City and is almost completely forgotten.

    Ed Bailey was 9% better than league average offensively and played catcher (fairly well, by most accounts). He played almost a decade in red.

    Ival Goodman was very good early in his career, then fell of a cliff. Those first five seasons were outstanding.

    Ernie Lombardi isn't mentioned very much, despite the fact that he's a Hall of Fame catcher with a 127 OPS+.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Geronimo. Excellent center fielder later overshadowed by Billy Hamilton. I second the Pinson nomination. He should be in the Hall Of Fame.

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    I went 2 for 4 at the plate. I begged them to let me convert to a OFer. I would have been a .300 hitter for years. My offence .500 average makes me the most underrated hitting pitcher in Reds history.

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    Re: most underrated reds

    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    Danny Driessen had a Red OPS+ 15% better than league average, while playing a solid 1B. He played 12 years in the Queen City and is almost completely forgotten.

    Ed Bailey was 9% better than league average offensively and played catcher (fairly well, by most accounts). He played almost a decade in red.

    Ival Goodman was very good early in his career, then fell of a cliff. Those first five seasons were outstanding.

    Ernie Lombardi isn't mentioned very much, despite the fact that he's a Hall of Fame catcher with a 127 OPS+.
    Lombardi may have been one of the greatest all time hitters. He is also considered the slowest player to ever play MLB. There were supposedly many times when he hit what should have been line drive singles to the outfield, only to be thrown out at first. I wonder how many infield hits he had in his career?

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