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    2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    I am guessing Snell wants out of Tampa Bay after that pathetic decision making to pull him out.

    The rays are known to trade big named pitchers for huge hauls.

    Reds get:
    Snell

    Rays get:
    Senzel
    Lodolo
    Santillan
    Random lottery ticket

    Who says no?
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    I wouldn’t be trying to trade Senzel personally, but if I was, I think it’d have to be for a hitter. Not that the trade isn’t technically worth it per se, but I think given the resources they have, they’re best move would be to trade for a hitter and open up the vaults for Bauer.

    Although idk maybe they could do this one and sign George Springer with the Bauer money
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    I think the Rays might say no though also, I think they could get more for Snell. 3 more years and he’s relatively cheap for a couple of them still. Even his 16mil on his last year is a bargain relative to his performance.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    There's a chance that Smell gets traded. Not because he wants it, but because he is going to get expensive and that's when the Rays traditionally trade guys.

    2020- $7 Mill (pre-covid)
    2021 - $11.1 mill
    2022 - $13.1 mill
    2023 - $16.6 mill

    He only signed the contract in 2019. He may last another year. He will not finish 2022 with Rays.

    Rays would not accept that offer. It's basically a good pitchng prospect in Lodolo, a guy that has been pretty much a bust in 2 years in majors (Senzel), and an iffy prospect in Santillan. They can do better.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Here is one:

    Reds trade Raisel Iglesias and Jesse Winker to the LA Dodgers in exchange for Gavin Lux, Scott Alexander. Caleb Ferguson and Edwin Rios.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Any trade for Snell would need to be centered around Hunter Greene, not Senzel.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    Any trade for Snell would need to be centered around Hunter Greene, not Senzel.
    I would do Greene and Senzel for Snell in a heartbeat
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I would do Greene and Senzel for Snell in a heartbeat
    I would too. I am not sure the Rays would want Senzel. I think they would rather have a bunch of prospects to go along with Greene.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    I would absolutely NOT trade Greene for Snell.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    I would absolutely NOT trade Greene for Snell.
    Best case scenario for Greene is that he becomes as good as Snell. You have more years of control with Greene, but so much uncertainty.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    OK...simple yet huge...

    CIN gets:
    OF Whit Merrifield

    KCR gets:
    DH Jesse Winker
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    OK...simple yet huge...

    CIN gets:
    OF Whit Merrifield

    KCR gets:
    DH Jesse Winker
    Whit to 2B, Moose to 1B, Votto to DH. That one deal solves a bunch of problems. I don't think KC would do it though. They already have Soler and Cordero to DH. They'd want a better defender. The Reds don't have one.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I would too. I am not sure the Rays would want Senzel. I think they would rather have a bunch of prospects to go along with Greene.
    That makes sense actually, the clocks already started on Senzel plus he’s been in the majors for a while so they don’t have the chance to develop him as they usually do with their guys.
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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    I think I would probably also not trade Greene myself either considering a couple things.

    For one, I think they’re going to need to develop one of these high end prospects into a superstar if they’re ever going to have a window bigger than a couple years.

    Two, Greene actually has looked good and developing pitching is starting to look like something this team is actually good at. Between Driveline and Johnson, I feel pretty good about Greene’s odds of panning out.
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    When it comes to crow, I'd like nothing more than to eat Dick's all season long and into the postseason.

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    Re: 2021 Offseason Slobberknockers

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    I would absolutely NOT trade Greene for Snell.
    Why?

    I honestly can’t figure this out. Greene is a lottery ticket. I know he is hyped, throws really hard, and could be special. On the flip his arm has already required TJ and he is about as unproven as prospects come. He has pitched a grand total of 72.2 innings since being drafted in 2017!

    Snell is a sure-fire cy young candidate (he already has one) controlled through 2023. He was a mega millions ticket that hit and made someone a multi millionaire.

    I get coveting prospects, but this would be a no-brainer.
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