The Real Problem With The Reds

[Krusty]

Does anyone think the real problem with the Reds is owner Bob Castellini? After going through a painful rebuilding process, he has the front office go on a two year spending spree on free agents and trading prospects for veterans. Two years later, now it appears to be they are cutting payroll. There is no direction here under his ownership and I think the Reds won’t be contenders till a new owner takes over. Opinions?

[westofyou]

Does anyone think the real problem with the Reds is owner Bob Castellini? After going through a painful rebuilding process, he has the front office go on a two year spending spree on free agents and trading prospects for veterans. Two years later, now it appears to be they are cutting payroll. There is no direction here under his ownership and I think the Reds won’t be contenders till a new owner takes over. Opinions?

I have heard that song prior, it could be true but I think it's the market size myself.

Everyone who buys in is local and everyone who buys in does it for the good of the city and having local ownership and all that rot... then everybody gets sticker shock when they see what the cost of running one of 30 businesses in the country in a market that is dwarfed by their competitors is like and they get conservative, which means they hire conservative people and the whole thing is slogged down again and again

[WrongVerb]

"Don't you know who I work for?" -- Walt Jocketty.

[redsfanmia]

I honestly don’t really think its Bob I think it’s the Williams brothers and the rest of the minority owners. Bob wants to win and be out front leading the cheers, I think the minority owners keep the purse strings tight, JMO.

[Bruce Berenyi]

I know one of the minority owners Frank Cohen of Blackstone, look him up

[Falls City Beer]

I have heard that song prior, it could be true but I think it's the market size myself.

Everyone who buys in is local and everyone who buys in does it for the good of the city and having local ownership and all that rot... then everybody gets sticker shock when they see what the cost of running one of 30 businesses in the country in a market that is dwarfed by their competitors is like and they get conservative, which means they hire conservative people and the whole thing is slogged down again and again

This is the conclusion I’ve come to as well. It’s just running through the bloodstream of the franchise. Incredibly cautious, short-sighted people.

[Kinsm]

Does anyone think the real problem with the Reds is owner Bob Castellini? After going through a painful rebuilding process, he has the front office go on a two year spending spree on free agents and trading prospects for veterans. Two years later, now it appears to be they are cutting payroll. There is no direction here under his ownership and I think the Reds won’t be contenders till a new owner takes over. Opinions?

I still believe this ownership is close to putting the club up for sale.

[Revering4Blue]

To answer your question, Krusty, no, Bob Castellini is not the real problem with the franchise. The main issues plaguing the franchise for quite some time have been the overall inabilty to identify, acquire and develop talent on (at least) a fairly consistent basis.

I'm not suggesting that Castellini isn't culpible to some degree. It's the nature of the beast. But I'm not sure how the aforementioned issues circle back to him.

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[Strikes Out Looking]

The problems with the outlook of the franchise have been around almost as long as the franchise itself, it didn't start with the Williams/Castellini group. Its a strain that ran through Linder, Schott, Nippert, Dewitt, etc...

[KronoRed]

I still believe this ownership is close to putting the club up for sale.

Won't change anything, it will be the same stuff, "LOCAL OWNERS ONLY!"

[klw]

Biggest problem with the Reds is that they have never hired Krusty as their Director in Charge of Slobberknocker Development and Implementation

[Falls City Beer]

Biggest problem with the Reds is that they have never Krusty their Director in Charge of Slobberknocker Development and Implementation

Facts

[RedsManRick]

To answer your question, Krusty, no, Bob Castellini is not the real problem with the franchise. The main issues plaguing the franchise for quite some time have been the overall inabilty to identify, acquire and develop talent on (at least) a fairly consistent basis.

I'm not suggesting that Castellini isn't culpible to some degree. It's the nature of the beast. But I'm not sure how the aforementioned issues circle back to him.

To be fair, that can also stem from excess conservatism. It took more than a decade before the organization started modernizing its operation.

[Roy Tucker]

This is the conclusion I’ve come to as well. It’s just running through the bloodstream of the franchise. Incredibly cautious, short-sighted people.

Have you ever met business owners from Cinci? I’m on a first name basis with the C-level of my Fortune 500 company. They are good smart savvy people. But they are conservative as all get out. They don’t take chances. They aren’t short sighted. They look at things on a 10-20-50 year basis. Not conducive for winning in MLB as a small-medium size club.

[Coopdaddy67]

I couldn't reply "YES!" fast enough after reading the thread title.

He's meddled repeatedly in baseball operations because he wanted his favorite players re-signed, extended and/or not traded. The only reason he doesn't get more heat is because Mike Brown exists.