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    If the DH stays...

    Who do you see being a better DH for this team? Votto? Winker? Or take a shot at signing Edwin Encarnacion? Or who else? I like Nelson Cruz but think he is staying in Minnesota.


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    Re: If the DH stays...

    The Reds already have three starting position guys who don’t defend well. Votto, Winker, and Cast. Each might be considered a DH.

    So I don’t see them acquiring another DH. If anything, they should be acquiring two-way players who can defend.

    One might suggest a RH hitting DH to platoon with Votto or Winker. But neither Votto nor Wink is a platoon player now, and if Reds acquire a RH bat, he should play a defensive position.

    As between the two, Winker is the main DH. Presumably Votto will get some DH time as well. That lineup might change if there’s a trade and, obviously, would change if the DH isn’t adopted.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Winker or Castellanos should be DHing. No sane manager should be playing those two in the OF together on a regular basis.
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    Of all the needs this team has the last thing they need to do is spend resources acquiring more guys who can hit but can't field. The reds need to visit the leather tree.

    I know "staying healthy is a skill" is not a popular opinion on this board, but they need to figure out a way to keep Nick Senzel on the field so they can decide what they have there.
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    If the DH stays...

    I go.


    I've never been a fan of AL-style baseball. I understood the need for using it this year, because the 2020 season was hijacked by the virus. But if it sticks around, I'm checking out.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Didn't miss a pitcher at the plate with a bat in his hand this year. Not once.

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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Quote Originally Posted by corkedbat View Post
    Didn't miss a pitcher at the plate with a bat in his hand this year. Not once.
    Yeah honestly I thought I would despise it, but I ended up liking it a lot better than pitchers hitting. It turns out games are a lot more enjoyable to watch when you don’t have a bottom third of the lineup that’s basically useless coming up every few innings.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    I'm pretty sanguine about the OF as currently constructed:

    Winker DH/ LF
    Castellanos RF
    Akiyama OF
    Aquino OF
    Senzel OF/ IF
    Goodwin OF

    Goodwin's an excellent fourth OF, Aquino can provide pop off the bench and is a decent RH complement when one of the corner guys needs a blow, Akiyama can play all the OF spots well (and OBP well), and Senzel is a wildcard.

    I'd play Senzel much more often as an infield backup at 2B and 3B and move Moustakas to 1B on the occasion that Votto is DHing.

    There is a small hole at catcher (that should be filled by some combination of Stephenson and one of the guys on the team now), and there is a chasm at SS (that Garcia is likely less prepared to fill offensively).

    If the Reds fail to get a good, quality SS, they aren't going to compete. If they do, they would seem to have enough other pieces to at least be in the picture.

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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    If the DH stays...

    I go.

    I've never been a fan of AL-style baseball. I understood the need for using it this year, because the 2020 season was hijacked by the virus. But if it sticks around, I'm checking out.
    I don't like it, but it's almost assuredly sticking around. However, I like you, so I hope you stick around too.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    I missed pitchers hitting, big time. It was easy to gloss over, because the season and the games were already surreal without fans, the fake crowd noise, the bizarre schedule, 7 inning games, the horrible extra inning rule, all the Covid talk.

    None of it felt real to me, I felt like I was watching Arena Baseball, so you could have center field played by stand up comedians for every team, and it wouldn’t have bothered me.

    I will wait until the game gets back to fans in the stands, normal schedules, regular rules before judging how I care about the DH.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Quote Originally Posted by 757690 View Post
    I missed pitchers hitting, big time. It was easy to gloss over, because the season and the games were already surreal without fans, the fake crowd noise, the bizarre schedule, 7 inning games, the horrible extra inning rule, all the Covid talk.

    None of it felt real to me, I felt like I was watching Arena Baseball, so you could have center field played by stand up comedians for every team, and it wouldn’t have bothered me.

    I will wait until the game gets back to fans in the stands, normal schedules, regular rules before judging how I care about the DH.
    To each their own, but I will happily go the rest of my life without seeing rallies started by the middle of the order dying out as soon we get to the Galvis/Barnhart/pitcher chunk of the lineup. That’s about as dull as watching paint dry to me.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    I hope the 2021 Reds can get 9 dhs instead of the 9 batters they used in a woeful hitting lineup in 2020.

    I don't really like the dh, but I'll learn to live with it - however, I don't see the Reds signing anyone as 1/3 of their starting lineup most days are better suited to dh than playing the field.

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    Re: If the DH stays...

    I believe the owners will hold off on the DH in 2021 and use it as a bargaining chip in the upcoming CBA.
    Last edited by Ron Madden; 10-31-2020 at 08:16 PM.

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    Re: If the DH stays...

    Knowing Manfred they will ditch the DH but make 7 inning double headers law.
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    Re: If the DH stays...

    I assumed the reason the DH wasn't already universal was because they going use agreeing to it as a negotiating tactic for the next CBA
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