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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    You're being played.

    https://time.com/5107984/hospitals-h...-flu-patients/

    The 2017-2018 influenza epidemic is sending people to hospitals and urgent-care centers in every state, and medical centers are responding with extraordinary measures: asking staff to work overtime, setting up triage tents, restricting friends and family visits and canceling elective surgeries, to name a few.

    “We are pretty much at capacity, and the volume is certainly different from previous flu seasons,” says Dr. Alfred Tallia, professor and chair of family medicine at the Robert Wood Johnson Medical Center in New Brunswick, New Jersey. “I’ve been in practice for 30 years, and it’s been a good 15 or 20 years since I’ve seen a flu-related illness scenario like we’ve had this year.”
    Jesus dude, you're the one smugly linking to a comment you made on a Russian disinfo site. You're the one being played.

    Yes, ERs around the country are all conspiring with all of the public health officials and epidemiologists to raise false alarms about something that's nothing more than a bad flu season, clearly because the public health community is nothing more than an elaborate front for a shadowy cabal to implement SPOOKY MIND CONTROL. How dense can you be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    We’re going to have to lockdown for probably another month or whatever if the hospitals keep filling up. There’s just not really any other way around it.

    Although my feeling is that probably won’t help as much as people think given that most of the cases now are coming from private get together and there’s nothing you can really do to stop that.
    It's just not realistic. The people in charge used up their goodwill and there's no way a majority of the public will go along with it. Most businesses can't sustain a winter shutdown either.

    The problem is that when a vaccine is finally here, chances are it's going to be a temporary benefit, as the virus is constantly mutating. There's several strains spreading around the world right now of varying severities. My hope is that once you have a vaccine for one, they're easy to adjust to deal with regional/seasonal versions of the virus. Given that it's 2020, I'm not getting my hopes up though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Coopdaddy67 View Post
    It's just not realistic. The people in charge used up their goodwill and there's no way a majority of the public will go along with it. Most businesses can't sustain a winter shutdown either.

    The problem is that when a vaccine is finally here, chances are it's going to be a temporary benefit, as the virus is constantly mutating. There's several strains spreading around the world right now of varying severities. My hope is that once you have a vaccine for one, they're easy to adjust to deal with regional/seasonal versions of the virus. Given that it's 2020, I'm not getting my hopes up though.
    COVID doesn’t mutate that rapidly as I understand it. When the vaccines arrive, we’ll be good. That’s also the benefit of those mRNA vaccines, they’re pretty adjustable, if one of them ends up being approved.

    I actually tend to agree that shutting down restaurants or whatever probably won’t make a big difference at this point as DeWine threatened here in Ohio, but I honestly don’t think there’s a choice if our hospitals are on the verge of collapsing.


    They desperately need to cut out the red tape and give that Pfizer vaccine the EUA and start vaccinating healthcare workers, like yesterday.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NachoMan View Post
    Jesus dude, you're the one smugly linking to a comment you made on a Russian disinfo site. You're the one being played.

    Yes, ERs around the country are all conspiring with all of the public health officials and epidemiologists to raise false alarms about something that's nothing more than a bad flu season, clearly because the public health community is nothing more than an elaborate front for a shadowy cabal to implement SPOOKY MIND CONTROL. How dense can you be?
    What Russian disinfo site?

    Easiest way to prove me wrong is to post numbers..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougdirt View Post
    We're in month 11 of a world wide pandemic that we haven't seen in 100 literal years
    No we're not. It's clear we're not. Don't project your neuroticism onto the rest of us. Keep your crazy to yourself. Don't try to force your lame loser craziness on people who have lives. Just shrivel up already.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    No were not. It's clear we're not. Don't project your neuroticism onto the rest of us. Keep your crazy to yourself.
    It’s posts like this that make me think you’re trolling about this stuff dude. Everything Doug said is pretty much factually true. Unless you believe that 250,000 people dying of a new disease is a routine occurrence.
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    What Russian disinfo site?

    Easiest way to prove me wrong is to post numbers..
    https://www.newsguardtech.com/wp-con...f-Guardian.pdf

    http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html

    https://www.stopfake.org/en/russian-...or-their-hate/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    It’s posts like this that make me think you’re trolling about this stuff dude. Everything Doug said pretty much factually true. Unless you believe that 250,000 people dying of a new disease is a routine occurrence.
    I believe that 50 to 60K people die every week.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


    And of those Covid deaths, 94% had two or more complications.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    I believe that 50 to 60K people die every week.

    https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm


    And of those Covid deaths, 94% had two or more complications.
    Cool, that’s still an extra 250,000 people that died that likely wouldn’t have otherwise. And whether they had comorbidities or not, they still died.

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    Quote Originally Posted by NachoMan View Post
    Jesus dude, you're the one smugly linking to a comment you made on a Russian disinfo site. You're the one being played.

    Yes, ERs around the country are all conspiring with all of the public health officials and epidemiologists to raise false alarms about something that's nothing more than a bad flu season, clearly because the public health community is nothing more than an elaborate front for a shadowy cabal to implement SPOOKY MIND CONTROL. How dense can you be?
    We passed 250,000 dead today, which is bizarre because Rojo proclaimed corona over back in September.
    I'm not a system player. I am a system.

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    Yeah, ok, I'm aware of NATO warnings. Thanks.
    Some mouthbreather duped by Russian propaganda is claiming a NATO conspiracy? Impossible.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Cool, that’s still an extra 250,000 people that died that likely wouldn’t have otherwise.
    The percentage of people who catch covid-19 and die is......100%

    So yes they would've died otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rojo View Post
    The percentage of people who catch covid-19 and die is......100%

    So yes they would've died otherwise.
    You know exactly what I meant

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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    We passed 250,000 dead today, which is bizarre because Rojo proclaimed corona over back in September.
    I did?


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