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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    I think there should be a fixed number of seats in the Hall of Fame. Every time someone is voted in, someone needs to be voted out to make room for him.
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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    At no level are we talking about a big Hall. The good Mr. Madden linked an article which lays it out pretty well that we're arguing the line between very exclusive and super exclusive. Andy Pettitte gets only passing mention. Jason Giambi, Lance Berkman, Miguel Tejada, Johnny Damon, Jorge Posada and Jim Edmonds were one-and-done. Carlos Delgado hit 473 HR with 1,512 RBI and a career 138 OPS+. Offensively speaking, he's in the Willie Stargell neighborhood and voters barely blinked at him. And winning a Cy Young apparently gets you no consideration. Conjure the spirit of some deceased HOF voters and they'd tell us we're nearly impossible to please.
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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    At no level are we talking about a big Hall. The good Mr. Madden linked an article which lays it out pretty well that we're arguing the line between very exclusive and super exclusive. Andy Pettitte gets only passing mention. Jason Giambi, Lance Berkman, Miguel Tejada, Johnny Damon, Jorge Posada and Jim Edmonds were one-and-done. Carlos Delgado hit 473 HR with 1,512 RBI and a career 138 OPS+. Offensively speaking, he's in the Willie Stargell neighborhood and voters barely blinked at him. And winning a Cy Young apparently gets you no consideration. Conjure the spirit of some deceased HOF voters and they'd tell us we're nearly impossible to please.
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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    There's 235 MLB players in the Hall of Fame. Another hundred who are in there for non-playing reasons (or played in the Negro Leagues).

    There are apparently over 15,000 MLB players all time.

    That equates out to about 1.5% of all players.

    I don't think the Hall can argue it's not exclusive enough.

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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    I think there should be a fixed number of seats in the Hall of Fame. Every time someone is voted in, someone needs to be voted out to make room for him.
    Why, if the HOF building isn't big enough to keep adding more players to it they should make the building bigger
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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    Curt Schilling is no doubt a HOFer. Just check out his stats.

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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by podgejeff_ View Post
    There's 235 MLB players in the Hall of Fame. Another hundred who are in there for non-playing reasons (or played in the Negro Leagues).

    There are apparently over 15,000 MLB players all time.

    That equates out to about 1.5% of all players.

    I don't think the Hall can argue it's not exclusive enough.
    I think you have to cut that all time denominator down because there are much too many Pete Rose Juniors in that number. I think you have to cut it down by an average number of years career and then add a few. So say the average MLB career all time is something like 5 years. Because there are many more Pete Rose Jrs who play 2 games, or one year, or 3 years being called up from the minors for emergency purposes and such than there are Pete Rose Seniors who play 20+ years, you would include only those who played say a 7 or 8 years or more. Reason I say this is because saying it's exclusive because the Pete Rose Juniors don't get in just doesn't make sense. It still might be exclusive, but not as exclusive when you include so many careers that never really got off the ground.

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    Re: 2021 HOF Ballot

    Quote Originally Posted by podgejeff_ View Post
    There's 235 MLB players in the Hall of Fame. Another hundred who are in there for non-playing reasons (or played in the Negro Leagues).

    There are apparently over 15,000 MLB players all time.

    That equates out to about 1.5% of all players.

    I don't think the Hall can argue it's not exclusive enough.
    19,092 players

    1.23%

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