You are correct, I was thinking elite 8, but they have gone to two sweet 16’s since 1996. That is not a resume of a major program/blue blood.
I can get on board with revering’s post. High mid-major is fine. I think the Flyers are a mid-major, though. The only reason I can be persuaded they are a high mid-major is their arena/fan base, though. Their team is that if a mid-major IMHO.
To me, major programs can make a run at a national championship just about every single year. It would take a generational roster for Dayton or UC to even have a shot at making a run. Dayton had theirs in 2020 with Obi Toppin.
What would you say.....ya do here?
What would you say.....ya do here?
UC was a 2 seed in the NCAA tournament as recently as three years ago, so if seeds are any indication, they were at worst one of the top eight favorites. They were THE tournament favorite in 2000 prior to the Kenyon Martin injury in the conference tournament, so I don't agree it would take a generational roster to make a run because they were in the Final Four in 1992 and Elite 8 in 1993 (lost in OT to the National Champ) and 1996. Admittedly, despite how much of a regular they've been in the NCAA tournament since Huggins took over, they haven't had much success past the first weekend since the 1996 Elite 8 team, which is part of the reason they weren't dying to keep Mick. I root for Dayton, and they had a great team last year to the point it reminded me a bit of what happened to UC on that Kenyon team when COVID happened, but UC is in a tier above UD.
I guess that depends what your definition of generational is. It doesn't seem like 1992 (Final Four) to 2000 (Kenyon injury) was a generation apart. If, by your own definition, majors are teams that can make a run at a national championship every single year, that eliminates the vast, vast majority of college basketball teams.
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Revering4Blue (04-12-2021)
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
I would love for Erik Martin to get the Cincy job. Most WVU fans feel the same. It is not that we want to lose him....but he is a great guy that has been loyal to Huggins and WVU that we support. My ONLY hesitation is Martin is supposedly like Huggins where off the court, the guys love him, but a no smiling in your face hard azz during those 2-3 hours of practice. Is that him, or is that him just being who he thinks Huggins expects him to be? If it is him, will that work in 2021 without the Huggins 900+ wins? Will guys respond to a 1st year coach with that approach?
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“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
I would much rather Van Exel gets the job. Dude is a winner, plain and simple.
I also wonder how intense Huggins is anymore. He seems comparatively chill these days.
And yes, if I was a WV fan, I'd hope the Bearcats hire Martin too.
"Lemonade requires a significant amount of sugar. Otherwise, you've just made lemon juice."
First, Van Exel is one of may favorite basketball players of all time....and I mean that, so I am not going to criticize him too much except to say if "winning" is in his DNA, he does not have a lot of hardware to prove it. Huggins is not the 2010 version, but a player still better have thick skin to play for him. Martin helps WVU big men improve....he would be a loss.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Bob Sheed (04-11-2021)
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