reds77 (12-07-2020),Roy Tucker (12-06-2020),Wonderful Monds (12-06-2020)
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
M2 (12-06-2020)
M2 (12-06-2020),Old school 1983 (12-07-2020)
There's another way to look at this Wheeler rumor: it could be a third team that wants to trade for Gray trying to soften the Reds ask. Which means the Reds are making a big ask and holding firm. (Or else the lines I'm reading between are a mirage.)
Our planet is a lonely speck in the great enveloping cosmic dark. In our obscurity, in all this vastness, there is no hint that help will come from elsewhere to save us from ourselves. -- Carl Sagan (Pale Blue Dot)
If the Reds move Sonny and do not get a massive haul for him, I will be done with this franchise. I'm only a few hours drive to DC or Atl. Probably just convert while my kids are still young enough to not be raised a Reds fan. World's tough enough already. No need to pile misery on from such a young age.
Not that I'm against trading him, but the return has to be bananas given his performance and contract.
Yep, unless the return is something so absurd that the other time would basically be totally stupid (like Acuna Jr. type of dumb) I would be done. That would be it for me. I'm planning on moving to Florida in February, and if they trade Gray for anything less than totally absurd I won't get MLB.TV, and that will be it for me as a Reds fan. There would no longer be a point in following the team.
Red Raindog (12-08-2020),REDREAD (12-07-2020)
Edd Roush (12-06-2020)
BoxingRed (12-07-2020)
This offseason is developing poorly.
“The crows seem to be calling my name,” thought Caw.
REDREAD (12-06-2020)
What would you say.....ya do here?
M2 (12-07-2020)
I'm wondering what framework or concept a trade Gray might have.
Do you think the Reds are dangling Sonny Gray in the same way as the Red Sox when they traded Betts to rid of David Shields?..
So Gray and Cast in a package, or? or even Votto (as if there is any chance of that)
The Sox had the Dodgers take an expensive David Price, but also sent some money and still got some young players back.
Also, one more tiny thought: Castellanos for Trevor Story. Who says no? Trevor is our shortstop for one year (and admittedly after arbitration I suppose he makes 5 mil more than Cast? But for better team balance and an excellent shortstop for next year? This might work if the Rockies need an outfielder.
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