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    I am of the same political swing as Rojo. But the fact he believes that Trump is not compromised by foreign interference in mind boggling.


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    If anyone ever pondered what would happen to the United States and the World at large if the United States ever had a president that was compromised by a foreign entity... well, here we are.

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    Re: Hacks

    If we're going to continue down this path, the remaining discussion should be in the politics area. If you can discuss this topic without getting into politics, have at it.

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    "One problem with people who have no vices is that they're pretty sure to have some annoying virtues."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roy Tucker View Post
    What do you say to build back confidence after the dam has already broke?
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    The United States has been victim (and perp) to many major hacks for many years now. It's not exclusive to a particular administration or party. Implying otherwise is to ignore the news for years in multiples of 4. We also, yanno, had like a 3 year special counsel investigation.

    These hacks are almost always state sponsored, we do them as well, and yeah it sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    What do you say to build back confidence after the dam has already broke?
    To tell you the truth, I don’t know. Those companies and institutions face a long haul back to disinfecting their infrastructure and regaining the trust of their customers. It means provisioning out parallel systems and networks, working closely with all your hardware and software vendors to make sure they are properly patched, rebuilding your infrastructure, making quadruple sure everything affected is the correct version and revision level, and being absolutely scrupulous and diligent that everything is being done safely and securely. It calls for a lot of diligence and discipline. I know where I work, IT security is of paramount importance and from the C-level on down, we all own it and live it every day. I know the CTOs and CISOs will cringe at this, but if they've been affected by these hacks, they need to be totally transparent to their customers and let them know what has happened and what they will do to remedy it. Doubt and distrust are your enemy.

    Where I work is one of the top 50 trustworthy companies in the US and we take that to heart. We scrupulously review everything we do, new systems, software, network, etc etc.. We constantly train up people and keep them fresh. We regularly run red team blue team exercises. We hire ethical hacker consultancies to run pen tests and do everything they possibly can to probe us and hack us and let us know of our weak points. But any company worth their salt has to have this security philosophy firmly ingrained into their company culture. I'll tell you one thing, cybersecurity is a great area to be in right now. I wish I was 20 years younger so I could spend more time working in this area. I love doing it but I'm getting a little tired of the 50+ hr. week grind.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stray View Post
    The United States has been victim (and perp) to many major hacks for many years now. It's not exclusive to a particular administration or party. Implying otherwise is to ignore the news for years in multiples of 4. We also, yanno, had like a 3 year special counsel investigation.

    These hacks are almost always state sponsored, we do them as well, and yeah it sucks.
    This hack is unprecedented in its scope. But correct, it is not a political issue nor a fault of the current administration. I will say I cannot hold them up as a shining beacon of IT security, but this hack happened to an awful lot of very competent companies and institutions.
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    1. Companies are too reliant on 3rd party management and security. Because more often than not, anything homegrown would be an even worse disaster.
    2. Companies never want to pay for proper DR and Risk Mitigation.
    3. I used to manage a bunch of firewalls. Look at the logs at any point. Just getting crushed from IP's all over Eastern Europe and Asia.
    4. US will never find and retain IT/Security talent to keep up with those guys, because they have too many requirements to adhere to and the pay is too low (comparatively).
    5. Social Engineering is still frighteningly effective, particularly against older folks, who generally have higher access.

    And 100 more reasons why this will happen again and again.
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    Any thoughts on the potential of TeamCity having been compromised as a means to access Solar Winds code? I know our security team is now scouring our code for evidence of a breach because we (like thousands of companies) use TeamCity for checking in code prior to release.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SunDeck View Post
    Any thoughts on the potential of TeamCity having been compromised as a means to access Solar Winds code? I know our security team is now scouring our code for evidence of a breach because we (like thousands of companies) use TeamCity for checking in code prior to release.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2021/01/06/u...yber-hack.html
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    Capitol Police rejected offers of federal help to quell mob

    Three days before the pro-President Donald Trump riot at the Capitol, the Pentagon asked the U.S Capitol Police if it needed National Guard manpower. And as the mob descended on the building Wednesday, Justice Department leaders reached out to offer up FBI agents. The police turned them down both times, according to a defense official and two people familiar with the matter.

    Despite plenty of warnings of a possible insurrection and ample resources and time to prepare, the Capitol Police planned only for a free speech demonstration.

    Still stinging from the uproar over the violent response by law enforcement to protests last June near the White House, officials also were intent on avoiding any appearance that the federal government was deploying active duty or National Guard troops against Americans.

    The result is the U.S. Capitol was overrun Wednesday and officers in a law enforcement agency with a large operating budget and experience in high-security events protecting lawmakers were overwhelmed for the world to see. Four protesters died including one shot inside the building.
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    I’d say they screwed the pooch pretty severely.
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    So you're saying the Capitol Police are a bunch of hacks?


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