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Old school 1983 (01-19-2021)
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REDREAD (01-20-2021)
REDREAD (01-20-2021)
It really wasn't that bad of a deal. Alex Wood had just turned in a ERA+ season of 105 and the year before that was an All Star with a 152 ERA+.
This part of the deal is far too often overlooked. The Reds acquired a SP who 15 months earlier had a season where he went 16-3 with a 2.72 ERA and an 8.9 K9, 2.2 BB9, and a 1.05 WHIP.
The Reds can't be criticized as there is no way they could've known he was going to injure his back in ST. The same situation applied to the one year deal for that A-hole Ryan Madson.
Old school 1983 (01-20-2021)
true, but alex wood already had the (correct) reputation of being fragile as hell even before the reds traded for him. you have to factor things like that in when trading for players. can't just ignore their injury history. wasn't like wood's back injury came out of the blue. he just re-injured an ailment he had been dealing with for quite some time.
REDREAD (01-20-2021)
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Revering4Blue (01-20-2021)
Yes, the only defense of the Puig-Homer trade is that Puig went to Cleveland as part of the package for Bauer. When people make arguments like that, it's a bad trade.
I think the Bauer deal gets done without Puig. Maybe the Reds have to send another prospect to Cleveland, but Puig was not the main target the Indians had in mind. The Indians probably didn't want to take on his salary. But of course, no way to prove that.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Cleveland needed an outfielder for a run in the playoffs, their offense sucked
Revering4Blue (01-20-2021)
Revering4Blue (01-20-2021),Ron Madden (01-20-2021)
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REDREAD (01-21-2021)
oh here we go again. listen, those of you that believe puig was a "big part" of the bauer trade are not going to change the minds of those of us that think that's complete nonsense, and vice versa. i posit we should agree to disagree on this one, or we'll just be going round and round all over again making the same points we did last time this was broached, with no hopes of either side convincing the opposing side they are right.
REDREAD (01-21-2021)
If the Reds manage to win something in the immediate future (divisions, playoff series), then this:
and this:
were seminal events in putting them on that road to those victories.
I'm not a system player. I am a system.
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