I'm thinking Castillo and Moose for Torres and somebody like Garcia or Schmidt. If I couldn;t get that, and probably couldn't, then I'd keep Castillo, but moving one (or both) of Moose or Castellanos should be a goal and a consideration to be explored in every single deal the Reds discuss IMO.
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REDREAD (01-17-2021)
If I were the Reds I would be negotiating with Votto to waive his no trade clause and try and attach him to this deal. They would dump the contract and give Votto the chance at a ring.
When I see the 2016 Reds, I see a 100 loss team and no direction.
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I mean, I know Moustakas and Castellanos are a little overpaid, but I’m struggling to understand why people are so excited about unloading two .800+ OPS bats like they are hot nuclear waste.
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IF you attach a bad contract to the deal, you're receiving less in prospect value no matter what.
I will never support surrendering prospect return to save money. The Reds need impact players. Reducing the potential return to save money in the short-term could cause the franchise significant damage in the long run.
Agreed, especially when they're basing it off 2020 production.
Castellanos and Moustakas are guys you give the 1st half of 2021 and hope they mash, creating potential trade opportunities at the deadline.
Selling low and/or attaching them to your elite players is very shortsighted.
Wonderful Monds (01-17-2021)
Ownership would respond that they can’t pay the bills with prospects. They need to cut salary. And are trying to do it without destroying the team.
Fans are skeptical of this, I have no way of knowing the owners’ calculus. But if that’s ownership’s view, then this would be one way of accomplishing it. I agree that attaching bad contracts reduces the player return, absolutely.
These particular rumors are likely coming from the Yankee end. The newspaper (in New Jersey) and the return (heavily in the Yankee's interest) would make that clear.
Other rumors have already been revealed as largely hot air or clickbait. (As evidenced by the lack of movement.)
Revealed as hot air or clickbait to fans who don’t want to hear it.
But all the rumors fit together. It’s really all one rumor. Reds continue to explore cost saving trades. They won’t move without a fair return, aren’t jumping at anything, but are looking around with different possible candidates.
I don’t know who is leaking the rumors, but they fit with Reds’ off-season and are too persistent to reject so easily.
Last edited by Kc61; 01-17-2021 at 03:45 PM.
REDREAD (01-17-2021)
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