“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Illinois has no brand in football anymore. Its a joke of a football program, and has been for over a decade. Their last relevance as a power was decades ago.
Nebraska is hanging on by a thread, but the further we are removed from the glory days, the further they slip from relevancy.
I don't think Syracuse moves the needle at all. What does Syracuse bring to the table.
Some teams that still have a "brand" name IMO would be Miami, FSU, Stanford, MSU, Iowa, etc. Teams that bring something to the table, teams that either have some flash, have been good in the recent past, have a fertile recruiting grounds, or sell out each and every game like Nebraska.
Illinois, Maryland, Syracuse, Georgia Tech of the schools you mentioned have no pull in the current version of college football.
“The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.”― Marcus Aurelius
Perception matters to a certain extent. If you are looking at those three teams, UC would be 3rd, but I don't think it's perception of the football programs that does that. Both Maryland and Illinois are the state school whereas UC is not. Also, the ACC would look to expand into a market, with the DC area topping both what UC and Illinois can bring.
Personally I think UC would be a better get than Illinois, but if Illinois can bring the Chicago market (which it probably can) then UC doesn't stand a chance.
Perception says UC is a much better football program than either of those two teams. But all the other factors are why UC would face an uphill battle joining a conference.
In the above hypothetical, there would be zero interest in the ACC to bring back Maryland.
Maybe even less than zero interest.
Continue.
Originally Posted by teamselig
I briefly went back and looked and good lord OSU was headed in the wrong direction during Tressel's final years. The recruiting was pretty terrible for that program.
Anyway, I always thought Rich Rod's problem is he wanted to play with fast, but undersized players all over the field. I think that worked well in the Big East where the teams they were playing didn't have quite the players that that the other leagues had. He tried to implement that in the B1G, and you ran up against teams who were just as fast, but bigger.
IMO Rich Rod would have failed everywhere he went unless he recruited at a high level as well. Had he gone to Bama and recruited at a high level, he could have succeeded. But I don't know if that was his MO. Remember at the time he turned Bama down, UM was a far better job.
Save for his first season in Ann Arbor, when he didn't have 'his' type of QB on the roster, the offense was just fine. The defense was the issue - for reasons that have been discussed over and over here.
Unless we are to believe that Brady Hoke was/is some coaching savant - Spoiler: He wasn't/isn't - the '11 breakout season with Denard Robinson at QB would have assuredly happened coaching change or not, as adkindo pointed out earlier in this thread. But nobody's going to change anyone's mind at this point.
A far better/stronger program than 'Bama at the time, yes.
The better job? No way. 'Bama simply hired dud after dud post Bear Bryant - Stallings, the notable exception - and promptly fell off the map. One caveat: IMHO, if not for the incident at the strip club, which cost Mike Price his job before coaching a game there, Price may well have been wildly successful there. At the time, no SEC team was running a one-back Pro-Set. And Franchione made a career-killing mistake by leaving 'Bama for A &M.
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*BaseClogger* (01-26-2021),adkindo (01-26-2021)
To borrow a phrase from RedTeamGo, That's a bingo!
While Tiller was the first B1G coach to be successful with a spread attack, the first to implement one full time was the late Jim Wacker at Minnesota '92-'96. It worked well if not for one lingering issue; Poor defenses year after year.
The late Hayden Fry at Iowa, as well as Mike White at Illinois, featured innovative, pass-happy attacks. So did the late Sam Wyche at IU, even though the team struggled in his one-and-only year in Bloomington, but he was building something.
Heck, even Joe Paterno loosened the reins during his team's undefeated '94 season with Kerry Collins at QB and Ki-Jana Carter at RB, by going up top more often than not.
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*BaseClogger* (01-26-2021)
sure it matters....Indiana could miss the next 10 NCAA tournaments and it will still be viewed as a major basketball school. It may not be on the top tier level with schools like Duke, UK, Kansas, etc. because it has been a while since they were an annual threat......but their brand is going to be superior to Purdue can have an iconic era of elite level success. There is just too much history that may not be recent but is still in the modern era that will have an impact on it's perception. There is a limit....as in the University of San Francisco is no longer viewed as a national basketball power because their success was confined to a limited period and a lot of time has passed.
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