The narrative I was hinting at it is that Belichick is such a genius, his system is so perfect, that he could win with anyone. Obviously, it was a silly narrative to begin with, but it was one that was disproven this year.Originally Posted by Hillsdale87
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They finished 6th in defensive DVOA and 11th in overall DVOA with a QB who threw a record number of INTs. Everybody knew they were a QB away from being one of the top teams in the league. Brady is elite. But it's not like he joined the Jets
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Wasn’t that a forward lateral?
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He was behind the line of scrimmage, so no.
Haha I’m dumb
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Tampa Bay was on the upswing before they signed Brady.
Mike Evans, Chris Godwin, and OJ Howard as receivers was better from a talent perspective than what he left in New England. That said, Brady is still the type of QB who can make nobodies into somebodies and he did that with Scotty Miller and Tyler Johnson. Doesn’t take Antonio Brown or Gronk into effect either.
It’s kinda like Denver this year. They’ve got the pieces but all they are missing is a QB.
I don't think anybody thought he could win with "anyone", but I would say that winning 7 games with the roster this year is extremely impressive. One of the worst QBs in the NFL, worst receiving corps in the NFL, decimated defense. It was probably the worst roster in the league.
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I am probably a little bias, but even if Brady, Gronk, Fournette and Brown did not arrive this year, I would have expected playoffs. First, the defense was very good the 2nd half of the season last year. The run defense was the best in the NFL all year, but the young secondary was playing at a high level about midway through the season. I can honestly say the Corners played better the 2nd half of the last season than they did this season. Many of the points on the defense late in the season were from short fields off an INT. Then the offense was as explosive as any in the NFL last season with both Evans and Godwin having 1K yard seasons...and Ronald Jones was finally running better at the end of the season. The interceptions were terrible, but look at every QB in Arians system, and their interceptions spike a significant amount their first year....then decline in subsequent years. I expected OJ Howard to break through and have a huge season this year, but he was injured early and out for the season. Finally, the Bucs probably had the best first two round picks in the draft this past year with Wirfs and Winfield being studs all year.
The Bucs were 7-9 last year, but 7 of those 9 losses were by a single score or less....and that is with 30 interceptions. The Bucs were on the brink of being very good...which is why Brady chose to go there. The Bucs this year overcame a lot of crap that was not expected....like losing Howard and Vita Vea for almost the whole season....their 2018 and 2019 1st Round picks, Evans played all season banged up, Godwin only played in 75% of the games, Jones was out for a couple games injured and multiple guys on the OLine have missed games injured.
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Looking like a Mahomes/Brady Super Bowl. CBS must be happy.
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Chip R (01-25-2021)
Belichick would yell at you for all the excuses you are making for his team.
However, the Patriots have won championships with questionable talent under Belichick. That has always been what he’s known for. He takes a bunch of no names and turns them into a winning team. He couldn’t do that this year.
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A bunch of no names and Tom Brady.
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I loathe Tyreke Hill
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757690 (01-24-2021)
February in Tampa....going to get our guys healthy. I expect KC to be favorites, but I like Tampa Bays chances. KC beat us in Tampa on 11/29 with the score being 27-24, but it is hard to evaluate that game as KC was the better team in the 1st half, and Tampa was much better in the 2nd half. Tyreke Hill destroyed TB in the 1st Half....much of it on Murphy-Bunting who was forced to play CB on the outside instead of his normal slot position because Jamel Dean was out.
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I think it’ll be KC by a lot. Mahomes neutralizes a lot of Tampa’s pass rush which is their biggest advantage.
Tampa would need to have a big game from Fournette and Jones...which they could...but I wouldn’t feel great about it.
Similar things were said about New Orleans and especially Green Bay in the cold weather....if we are healthy and fully loaded on our field, I like our chances.
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KC might want to pull their starters.
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