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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

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    I was told the Seahawks are not “shopping” Russell Wilson but calls made from other teams inquiring have been answered.

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    The #Seahawks have made calls to other teams about trading away QB Russell Wilson, @diannaESPN tells @PatMcAfeeShow


    "He's not happy [in Seattle]"
    https://twitter.com/diannaESPN/statu...38573327630341

    It's too soon to assume anything but they could take advantage of the Texans not answering their phone.

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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Elway, though only an advisor at thos point, will advise them to do whatever is necessary to get this done.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    ...and on cue...

    Following yesterday's "vote of confidence" on Derek Carr by Mike Mayock and Jon Gruden, Denver jumps into the Russell Wilson sweepstakes.

    From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments:

    Speaking Thursday, Broncos coach Vic Fangio confirmed the team would like to add competition for Drew Lock. “Until Drew proves to be the next great quarterback like the ones Denver has been used to in years past, or ones certain teams around the league have, we’re going to always try and bring in competition," Fangio said. "But I have confidence Drew can continue to improve.” It's the latest, strongest indication Lock won't be getting any free 2021 lunches after his dismal sophomore campaign. It's quite possible Lock is replaced outright, with no meaningful competition. Lock has mouthwatering tools but has given close to zero indication he knows how to harness them at the NFL level.

    SOURCE: Mike Klis on Twitter
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    ...and on cue...

    Following yesterday's "vote of confidence" on Derek Carr by Mike Mayock and Jon Gruden, Denver jumps into the Russell Wilson sweepstakes.

    From NBC Sports w/ NBC Sports' comments:

    Speaking Thursday, Broncos coach Vic Fangio confirmed the team would like to add competition for Drew Lock. “Until Drew proves to be the next great quarterback like the ones Denver has been used to in years past, or ones certain teams around the league have, we’re going to always try and bring in competition," Fangio said. "But I have confidence Drew can continue to improve.” It's the latest, strongest indication Lock won't be getting any free 2021 lunches after his dismal sophomore campaign. It's quite possible Lock is replaced outright, with no meaningful competition. Lock has mouthwatering tools but has given close to zero indication he knows how to harness them at the NFL level.

    SOURCE: Mike Klis on Twitter
    Let's see, there was Elway and . . . were there any other Denver qbs that were 'great'.

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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Let's see, there was Elway and . . . were there any other Denver qbs that were 'great'.
    Peyton Manning won them a Super Bowl and took them to another.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Let's see, there was Elway and . . . were there any other Denver qbs that were 'great'.
    Peyton Manning, except that last season when they won the Super Bowl in spite of his poor play all season, including the playoffs.

    Very Good, but not great, was Craig Morton, who would qualify here.

    That covers 25 of the 50 years they've been in the NFL, so yes, they are used to great QB's.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Manning was great in Indy, not as much in Denver. That leaves only one great DENVER qb (Elway).

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    Quote Originally Posted by redsfandan View Post
    Manning was great in Indy, not as much in Denver. That leaves only one great DENVER qb (Elway).
    He only set the NFL record for most TD's thrown by a QB in one season. Yeah, he really sucked.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    The way Top-20 QB's move around the NFL, and now Top-10 QB's are involved, teams no longer have to tank to get get good enough to win a Super Bowl.

    Everything has changed in the NFL landscape when it comes to coming up with a plan to win it all.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    He only set the NFL record for most TD's thrown by a QB in one season. Yeah, he really sucked.
    You got me there. Manning had 3 great seasons in Denver and one not so great.

    That means they had 16 years with a great qb in Elway and 3 with Manning = 19 years out of the 60+ years they've been in existence. That's it. Unless you count Morton and you said he qualifies but, by your own admission, Morton was . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Kingspoint View Post
    Peyton Manning, except that last season when they won the Super Bowl in spite of his poor play all season, including the playoffs.

    Very Good, but not great, was Craig Morton, who would qualify here.

    That covers 25 of the 50 years they've been in the NFL, so yes, they are used to great QB's.
    So Morton qualifies despite, by your own words, being NOT great. Ok.

    Btw, . . .

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    He only set the NFL record for most TD's thrown by a QB in one season. Yeah, he really sucked.
    I never said that.

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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob Sheed View Post
    Seems like it used to take QBs longer to acclimate to a new system/playbook.
    I'm not so sure a lot of the systems out there are terribly different. Sure, the terminology is different but everyone basically lines up in a Spread formation and throw the ball a lot.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Russell Wilson trade winds: Bears' top QB priority is acquiring Seahawks superstar, per report

    The Chicago Bears have never had a quarterback throw for 4,000 yards or 30 touchdown passes in a season, the only franchise in the NFL to hold this dubious feat. No wonder they plan to make a hard push for Russell Wilson if he becomes available.

    Chicago will stop at nothing to land Wilson in a trade form the Seattle Seahawks. Per Brad Biggs of the Chicago Tribune, the Bears have prioritized making a run at Wilson -- as Chicago is one of the four teams Wilson would prefer a trade to if Seattle were to deal him away. The New Orleans Saints, Dallas Cowboys, and Las Vegas Raiders are the other teams Wilson would prefer a trade to -- but Chicago is the franchise in the most desperate need of a quarterback amongst the four.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Please stay on subject. The subject is Quarterbacks.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Cowboys sign Dak Prescott

    Cowboys are giving Dak Prescott a four-year, $160 million deal, including a record $126 million guaranteed, source tells ESPN.

    The first three years average $42 million per year.
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    Re: The incredible NFL QB carousel of 2021

    Quote Originally Posted by JaxRed View Post
    Cowboys sign Dal Prescott

    Cowboys are giving Dak Prescott a four-year, $160 million deal, including a record $126 million guaranteed, source tells ESPN.

    The first three years average $42 million per year.

    They had to do it. They saw what dalton did with the exact same team.

    14 pt lower passer rating and 20 pt lower qbr than what dak did last year pre Injury


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