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    Re: Rob Manfred ?

    He hates baseball, but then his bosses do too.

    Fire them all.
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    I was all for him when they replaced Selig. I just felt that it was a good idea to have him in charge since he negotiated the last few CBAs. Boy, was I wrong. He's awful. Say what you want about Selig but he loves baseball.
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    Chip is right

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    NFL said "We have the most hated man in sports as our commish"
    MLB said "Hold our $14 bottle of beer"


    A sport that has trouble creating new fans kills the easiest way to get kids hooked (MiLB)... Makes perfect sense.

    #FireManfred.
    I knew this thing was headed down when I read that the Minor League changes were the Astros idea, they proposed it because it would save a relative pittance, and every team signed on with no reservations. That showed me who was really running the league and who the owners were listening to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Slyder View Post
    NFL said "We have the most hated man in sports as our commish"
    MLB said "Hold our $14 bottle of beer"


    A sport that has trouble creating new fans kills the easiest way to get kids hooked (MiLB)... Makes perfect sense.

    #FireManfred.
    It's a great point, and I have never thought of it that way. I've always had the luxury of being minutes away from the stadium. I didn't even think about all of the people in little cities/big towns that bring their kids to the game. We in fact have driven right past the stadium to go to a freedom game more often than not.
    WHEN DOES IT STOP!?!?

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    LOL, some pretty good ideas here
    How Commissioner Dan Roche Would Fix Major League Baseball
    Let’s welcome the MLBPA into a room. Tony Clark, come on in. The eight-man Players Executive Committee are welcome, too. From the owners side, a group of 5-10 works for me.

    I also want a “Grower Of The Game” committee led by Theo Epstein. I want Theo in this room. The committee can also include former players, a media member or two (how about Bob Costas and Vin Scully?), a minor league representative and perhaps a fan voice. They can give input to Theo as we go along.

    I’d lock all of them in a hotel for however long this takes. And here’s what I want to hammer out:

    Let’s figure out the numbers and agree that the “small market” teams need to spend money. If they don’t agree, we’ll find another market/team that would agree to this (Nashville, Montreal, Charlotte, and Portland are all intriguing options).

    I want to create a bigger interest in the Winter Meetings, which take place over five days in early December. I would start free agency on Day One of the Winter Meetings.

    How do you make those meetings more interesting? Players can agree to multi-year deals over that five-day period. If a player doesn’t agree to a deal in that time frame, they may only agree to a one-year deal after that period.

    I’d limit shifts to the left or right side — third base, shortstop, and left fielders could not go to the right side of infield/outfield

    A 25-second pitch clock.
    See More Ideas Here https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/02/...all-star-game/

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    Re: Rob Manfred ?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Madden View Post
    LOL, some pretty good ideas here
    How Commissioner Dan Roche Would Fix Major League BaseballSee More Ideas Here https://boston.cbslocal.com/2021/02/...all-star-game/
    I disagree with some of his rules, but I'd love to see this happen.

    It'd absolutely grow the game.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    I disagree with some of his rules, but I'd love to see this happen.

    It'd absolutely grow the game.
    Just out of curiosity, which rules do you like/not like?

    - I don't like the multi-year deal only during the winter meeting

    - I'm all for limiting the shift simply for the fact that it disproportionately impacts left handed hitters

    - I'm so torn about a salary cap. I see both sides of the argument but one thing they absolutely cannot do is institute a max salary like the NBA

    - I like his free agency rule where you are a free agent x number of years after being drafted

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    Quote Originally Posted by MoneyInTheBank View Post
    Just out of curiosity, which rules do you like/not like?

    - I don't like the multi-year deal only during the winter meeting

    - I'm all for limiting the shift simply for the fact that it disproportionately impacts left handed hitters

    - I'm so torn about a salary cap. I see both sides of the argument but one thing they absolutely cannot do is institute a max salary like the NBA

    - I like his free agency rule where you are a free agent x number of years after being drafted
    Love the free agency idea. It would push teams to be aggressive with prospects, then allow smart teams to add those who struggled to achieve stardom so early. Makes for much more movement earlier and a higher degree of difficulty on front offices. Too, players would get paid better earlier.

    Love the push to make the Winter Meetings meaningful, and I kinda like the multi-year idea being available for a select amount of time. The immediacy of it would push agents and teams to make moves. Which would drive interest. (And up the likelihood of mistakes.) As an added benefit, it'd hamstring some of the more powerful agents in the game, and I'm all for that.

    Love, love, love owners opening up their books and creating a true 50/50 split from revenue. If that comes with a salary cap, so be it. I suspect that'd be a massive bump from where we are now.

    I hate seven-inning double-headers. Eww.

    I also hate the runner on second extra inning garbage.

    Signing autographs before a game is stupid. Players should be getting ready to win. Two hours before a game, on Sunday perhaps? Cool. I could see that. (Divide it out so that every player signs autographs once per season at home and once on the road. 20 minutes at a pop, plus volunteers. Probably ought to pay them for it too.)

    Requiring infield and outfield once a series is also dumb.

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    I really don't like the idea, as spelled out, of only allowing multiyear deals at winter meetings. It lessens the bargaining strength of players as owners know the player has to get it done in that time frame. Another approach would be to allow teams to avoid a penalty if the multiyear deal is done during the meetings. This puts the incentive on the team to do it early while not limiting the players ability to wait. The odds of best deal happening at that time would still be there but would allow flexibility should off season injuries happen, plans change, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bourgeois Zee View Post
    I disagree with some of his rules, but I'd love to see this happen.

    It'd absolutely grow the game.
    There are a few of the ideas that I disagree with but I like a lot of'em
    Last edited by Ron Madden; 02-16-2021 at 05:21 PM.

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    Rob Manfred needs to end the mindless meddling with MLB’s rules

    I know the commissioner has good intentions with all the safety precautions put in place for spring training, at the same time wanting to address the very real concerns about the length of games and lack of action on the field. But the institution of “rollover” innings for the first two weeks of the Grapefruit and Cactus League schedules was downright lunacy.

    We’ll start with “rollovers” which thankfully ceased being part of spring games as of Sunday, hopefully never to resurface again. As part of their safety protocols for spring training, MLB announced that, up to March 13, games could be shortened to five innings or seven innings upon mutual agreement from both managers and that Baseball Rule 5:09 (e) would be relaxed, allowing defensive managers to end an inning prior to three outs providing their pitcher had thrown a minimum of 20 pitches. Supposedly this rule was put into effect to protect the health of the pitchers after a season of only 60 games in which they had limited innings.

    OK, we get it. They’re trying to protect pitchers’ arms.

    Imagine sitting there watching your team load the bases against a pitcher struggling with his control and anticipating a big inning with your best hitter coming to the plate, only to have the defensive manager come out of the dugout, wave his hands and declare the inning over? The fans’ collective “what the heck?” has resounded throughout the Grapefruit and Cactus Leagues this spring. According to the Elias Bureau, as of Friday there had been 130 “rollover” innings in 161 spring games, including six in one game between the Rangers and Mariners! There were better ways to protect pitchers’ arms — have more pitchers available and not worry about the circumstances in which a reliever is called in — rather than turning games into a travesty and still charging top dollar for it.
    Bill Madden, New York Daily News

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    I don’t think that the things Madden is complaining about are a big deal.
    Stick to your guns.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cincinnati chili View Post
    I don’t think that the things Madden is complaining about are a big deal.
    I agree. They are for this year alone, and mostly due to the Covid restrictions. If any of them stick, then maybe there’s an issue, but still, it’s just spring training, practice.
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