RedsfaninMT (03-06-2021),Ron Madden (03-06-2021),Tom Servo (03-06-2021)
Quick fix: ignore him.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
Yes, I feel the same way. The Reds opened up the pocketbook before 2020, but there was no long term plan.
Now, we are tied down with all those guys and have a money pinch. We can't even bring in a legitimate starting SS, and we have multiple holes in the pitching staff. If we had money to patch the holes, then the 2020 preseason wouldn't necessarily be a disaster. But now, we have money tied up in mediocre Miley and Shogo when there's other very pressing needs.
We probably won't be able to make any moves until these contracts start rolling off.. by then Gray and Castillo will be gone or have very little control left. Unless the farm starts producing, a lot of players will be gone.
It was just a poor plan. And the Reds can't blame it on the virus either. Even if there was no virus, we'd probably still be in a financial pinch this winter. The 2020 preseason reminds me of when Lindner got booed, so the next offseason he signed Randa, Milton, and some other guys hoping to get an "instant contender".. Seems like ownership saw attendance cratering, so they
hoped to sign some free agents to try to win while Bauer was here , but had no plan for what to do after 2020. Putting all there
eggs in one basket..
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Wade got rocked today.
Let’s make sure he’s in the rotation. It’s only been 18-20 months since he was a serviceable mlb starter
I’m sure he’ll bounce back cause of magic and hope.
REDREAD (03-06-2021)
So, Miley is going to be the whipping boy this year, then? Seems like an odd choice.
What would you say.....ya do here?
49 starts in 2018-2019 with a 3.52 ERA and 4.21 FIP.
6 games (4 "starts") in 2020 with a 5.65 ERA and a 4.73 ERA.
To say this thread has been an overreaction would be an understatement.
“I don’t care,” Votto said of passing his friend and former teammate. “He’s in the past. Bye-bye, Jay.”
Edd Roush (03-09-2021),M2 (03-06-2021),RedTeamGo! (03-06-2021),Ron Madden (03-06-2021)
From my viewpoint, if a failed 5th starter is your teams biggest issue, your team is doing pretty well. Seems to me that means Eugenio, Moose, and others have returned to form. It means Senzel hasn't suffered another injury and that Castillo and Gray are pitching as expected. All of those would be much bigger problems than Miley struggling.
Bourgeois Zee (03-06-2021),Edd Roush (03-09-2021),M2 (03-06-2021),Ron Madden (03-06-2021)
You might be right, but that's a bad plan IMO. (Not criticizing you personally, just if that was the plan)
My opinion: The Reds were desperate to make a big push in 2020 and made some poor decisions.. Miley, Shogo, and Strop.
Castanellos and Moose? They weren't horrible decisions. The problem is that there's no financial wiggle room to build the rest of the team. In a vacuum? Sure, they were ok signings. Big picture? The budget is so tight, the Reds are going to slowly sink as the team ages. When all the contracts roll off, the Reds should have budget room, but not much of a "core" left to build on.
Castillo in Gray will likely either be traded or leave as FA. But maybe the Reds surprise us and extend one or both of them.
Shogo and Miley make something like 15 million between them this year.. for a borderline starting pitcher and a 4th OF. That's really what's killing us this year.
If Castanallos did opt out, the offense (Which was 25th last year in runs scored) gets even worse. Shogo would not likely be able to pick up the slack. I'm glad Cast did not opt out. If he did, the Reds probably would not have spent the savings.
So , to be clear, the 2021 Reds will probably be an interesting team to follow. I doubt they make the unexpanded playoffs, but at least it will be more fun than the tanking teams.
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
[Phil ] Castellini celebrated the team's farm system and noted the team had promising prospects who would one day be great Reds -- and then joke then they'd be ex-Reds, saying "of course we're going to lose them". #SellTheTeamBob
Nov. 13, 2007: One of the greatest days in Reds history: John Allen gets the boot!
Personally I like the idea of Miley in the bullpen. I think he could provide serviceable innings there. But as a fifth starter he should be fine if they hold him to just a couple of times through the lineup.
...the 2-2 to Woodsen and here it comes...and it is swung on and missed! And Tom Browning has pitched a perfect game! Twenty-seven outs in a row, and he is being mobbed by his teammates, just to the thirdbase side of the mound.
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