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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    We spotted Castillo 4 runs before he threw a single pitch. He immediately gave that up.

    Also, we still scored 6 runs. If you score 6 runs you should win. No excuses.


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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    Are we really still judging hitters on batting average?
    Why else do we keep that statistic? It is the king of all baseball stats for hitters. Era for pitchers. All these other stats are crap.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by gagliano View Post
    Why else do we keep that statistic? It is the king of all baseball stats for hitters. Era for pitchers. All these other stats are crap.
    Apparently we're supposed to prefer a guy that goes 0-4 with 2 hard hit balls over some bum that goes 1-3 with a weak single and a walk.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    ESPN as always talk about everything except the actual game they are covering. College basketball coverage on ESPN is horrible.
    I loathe espn with a depth no man can fathom.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by REDREAD View Post
    small sample size, he's not that good. Sure he hits a homer every once in awhile, but not good.. Now, I support the Reds giving him enough playing time this year to evaluate him (if they still think he has potential), and I hope I'm proven wrong. Honestly, if it were up to me, he's cut when Shogo gets back (or sent to the minors if he has an option, I forget his status).. Naquin is clearly the better player.
    You may be right about Naquin being a better player, but I don't see anything clear about it. Aquino, age 26, has an .825 OPS in 265 career at bats. Naquin, age 29, has a .780 OPS in 970 career at bats. Aquino wasn't good last year in a small sample size - .623 OPS in 56 at bats, but Naquin was about the same, .632 OPS in 133 at bats.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    Yes Alabama football and Duke basketball. ESPN's two cash cow babies.
    Dont forget red sox/yankees

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by BluegrassRedleg View Post
    Pissed that game away. Gotta win tomorrow to salvage .500 trip against two weak teams.


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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo View Post
    You may be right about Naquin being a better player, but I don't see anything clear about it. Aquino, age 26, has an .825 OPS in 265 career at bats. Naquin, age 29, has a .780 OPS in 970 career at bats. Aquino wasn't good last year in a small sample size - .623 OPS in 56 at bats, but Naquin was about the same, .632 OPS in 133 at bats.
    Seems to be that what a player is and a guy who's more refined vs. ceiling/upside debate.

    Naquin is more polished and probably is a better player right now. He also clearly has talent as he was a first round draft pick.

    Aquino may one day be as good or better. Or he may not.

    It seems one of the bigger things that's held Naquin back has been injury after injury. The biggest thing holding Aquino back has been overall lack of consistency, breaking pitches, and pitch recognition. Those are things a lot of players in his position never quite figured out including our old friend Wily Mo Pena.

    Not to say Naquin doesn't have his holes or weaknesses as almost all players do. But I had my doubts about Aquino up here especially with that stance of his. Heard other players have had similar stances with success and he got white hot and hoped I could be wrong. Then he came crashing back to earth and hasn't apparently done much of anything to make the Reds feel like he's taken a leap forward from that since.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    None of the college basketball broadcasters were at the event.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by gagliano View Post
    Why else do we keep that statistic? It is the king of all baseball stats for hitters. Era for pitchers. All these other stats are crap.
    Even for me who does not comprehend some of these advanced stats I know that’s not the case. Thanks for your funny trolling though.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo View Post
    You may be right about Naquin being a better player, but I don't see anything clear about it. Aquino, age 26, has an .825 OPS in 265 career at bats. Naquin, age 29, has a .780 OPS in 970 career at bats. Aquino wasn't good last year in a small sample size - .623 OPS in 56 at bats, but Naquin was about the same, .632 OPS in 133 at bats.
    How about they keep them both. Get rid of one of these pitchers and force Bell to make better decisions with his bullpen. He still is not very good at player game management with the constant shortage of bench players in close games. You can also stretch out some other relievers and have them go 2 in some games. He can get by without 1 extra bullpen guy.

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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Updated Reds HR list (players in italics are active):

    Reds 100-Home Run Club
    1. Johnny Bench - 389
    2. Frank Robinson - 324
    3. Joey Votto - 297
    4. Tony Perez - 287
    5. Adam Dunn - 270
    6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
    7. George Foster - 244
    8. Jay Bruce - 233
    9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
    10. Eric Davis - 203
    11. Barry Larkin - 198
    12. Brandon Phillips - 191
    13. Vada Pinson - 186
    14. Wally Post - 172
    15. Gus Bell - 160
    15. Eugenio Suarez - 160
    17. Joe Morgan - 152
    17. Pete Rose - 152
    19. Lee May - 147
    20. Dan Driessen - 133
    21. Reggie Sanders - 125
    22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
    23. Sean Casey - 118
    24. Frank McCormick - 110
    25. Todd Frazier - 108
    26. Dave Parker - 107
    27. Chris Sabo - 104
    28. Dave Concepcion - 101
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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by 0-2 Count View Post
    Give him playing time over who? He's the 5th outfielder and the other 4 are having a decent measure of success.
    Yea, and when Shogo comes back, even less time for Aquino.
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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by CesarGeronimo View Post
    You may be right about Naquin being a better player, but I don't see anything clear about it. Aquino, age 26, has an .825 OPS in 265 career at bats. Naquin, age 29, has a .780 OPS in 970 career at bats. Aquino wasn't good last year in a small sample size - .623 OPS in 56 at bats, but Naquin was about the same, .632 OPS in 133 at bats.
    Naquin has 970 career at bats. Aquino has 266, and his lifetime stats have really been buoyed by that hot 1 month he had when he first came up. Pitchers have adjusted to him. Naquin makes better contact (277 BA, 325 OBP career). Naquin can play CF and is a better defender than Aquino. The only thing Aquino is better at is power, but Aquino struggles so much to make contact, his power tool is less useful.

    Naquin just profiles as a much more useful player, especially in a backup role.

    Now if you asked me whether I would rather have Shogo or Aquino and there was hypothetically no financial reasons involved, I would have to think about that.
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    Re: 4-13-21 Reds vs Giants 9:45pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Tony Cloninger View Post
    Even for me who does not comprehend some of these advanced stats I know that’s not the case. Thanks for your funny trolling though.
    Not trolling. So i have an opinion? People on this board think they are real experts, boy. Just b/c i don't believe in all these goofy metrics (who cares about launch angle and exit velo?) Doesnt make me a troll. Geesh.

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