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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    To avoid "cluttering' the general college football board with endless IU football debate, I'll respond to this post here:

    Quote Originally Posted by RedTeamGo! View Post
    I get the point you are making about why that is the worst loss, however, I think Indiana clearly had the worst loss yesterday. Indiana fans and the program spent the entire offseason beating their chests, saying they were one of the best teams in the country with one of the best head coaches in the country and one of the best QBs in the country. They got complete manhandled by a likely solid Iowa team, but nothing special. Penix had a horrendous game. All of that goodwill from last season is bye-bye.
    First, I wholeheartedly agree with this:

    I think Indiana clearly had the worst loss yesterday. They got complete manhandled by a likely solid Iowa team, but nothing special. Penix had a horrendous game. All of that goodwill from last season is bye-bye.
    However, I take exception to the following:

    Indiana fans and the program spent the entire offseason beating their chests, saying they were one of the best teams in the country with one of the best head coaches in the country and one of the best QBs in the country.
    I don't recall Redzoners stating anything along those lines - granted, I may have overlooked such comments - so perhaps you are referring to external comments on the matter.

    I can tell you that I, for one, never allowed the expectations for this season and the program - perennial divisional challengers to OSU - to reach such an unrealistic level. Take last season, for instance: They likely lose by a greater margin (though I'm suggesting they'd have been blown out) in a 'normal' season in Columbus with a full stadium of fans. And it's highly doubtful that they win at a packed Camp Randall Stadium with Tuttle, a game manager, at QB.

    Honestly - and I've mentioned this before - my realistic expectation for this program as a comp: Pat Fitzgerald's Northwestern Wildcats program. You generally go bowling every year, with an occasional shot at a high profile bowl.

    And as far as the assumption of Tom Allen as an elite coach - and this is not directed at you and actually supports your point - that's a stretch. Allen's obvious strength is his ability to motivate his players (that's not in question) but IMHO, he needs quality coordinators to assist with the Xs and Os for his program to reach my aforementioned expectations for the program. The departed Kane Wommack (DC) and (OC) Kalen DeBoer, for example. The latter, a bigger loss than most realize.
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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Revering4Blue View Post
    To avoid "cluttering' the general college football board with endless IU football debate, I'll respond to this post here:



    First, I wholeheartedly agree with this:



    However, I take exception to the following:



    I don't recall Redzoners stating anything along those lines - granted, I may have overlooked such comments - so perhaps you are referring to external comments on the matter.

    I can tell you that I, for one, never allowed the expectations for this season and the program - perennial divisional challengers to OSU - to reach such an unrealistic level. Take last season, for instance: They likely lose by a greater margin (though I'm suggesting they'd have been blown out) in a 'normal' season in Columbus with a full stadium of fans. And it's highly doubtful that they win at a packed Camp Randall Stadium with Tuttle, a game manager, at QB.

    Honestly - and I've mentioned this before - my realistic expectation for this program as a comp: Pat Fitzgerald's Northwestern Wildcats program. You generally go bowling every year, with an occasional shot at a high profile bowl.

    And as far as the assumption of Tom Allen as an elite coach - and this is not directed at you and actually supports your point - that's a stretch. Allen's obvious strength is his ability to motivate his players (that's not in question) but IMHO, he needs quality coordinators to assist with the Xs and Os for his program to reach my aforementioned expectations for the program. The departed Kane Wommack (DC) and (OC) Kalen DeBoer, for example. The latter, a bigger loss than most realize.
    Nice post and thank you.

    And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

    Go Hoosiers.

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Nice post and thank you.

    And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

    Go Hoosiers.
    You're welcome.

    RTG is a good guy, but I just happen to disagree with him here.

    We'll see if they bounce back in a big way tonight.

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    Nice post and thank you.

    And I will never, and I repeat never, forget who made that comment you responded to.

    Go Hoosiers.
    I didn’t mean to offend any Hoosiers fans, and sorry if I did offend you. Just giving my honest take, this isn’t the only place I talk and read college football stuff. That was in the general CFB thread, not Hoosier thread.
    What would you say.....ya do here?

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    21-0 Hoosiers late 1st quarter.

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Cooper had a good game this week....

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    The Hoosiers will be lucky to go 6-6...

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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Quote Originally Posted by Assembly Hall View Post
    The Hoosiers will be lucky to go 6-6...
    We've all seen this movie - including the unhappy ending - far too many times over the years in 'statement' games/seasons.

    And UC has the QB that we all wish Penix Jr. had become. Personally, I'm ready for the Donaven McCulley as QB era to begin.
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    Re: Hoosier Football-2021

    Close one in Bowling Green.


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