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    Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...en/5041677001/

    Foo Fighters, The Go-Go's, Todd Rundgren, Carole King and Tina Turner.

    LL Cool J, Billy Preston and Randy Rhoads will get musical excellence awards; Clarence Avant the Ahmet Ertegun award; and Kraftwerk, Gil Scott Heron and Charley Patton get early influence awards.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    https://www.usatoday.com/story/enter...en/5041677001/

    Foo Fighters, The Go-Go's, Todd Rundgren, Carole King and Tina Turner.

    LL Cool J, Billy Preston and Randy Rhoads will get musical excellence awards; Clarence Avant the Ahmet Ertegun award; and Kraftwerk, Gil Scott Heron and Charley Patton get early influence awards.
    I'm puzzled by Gil Scott Heron and Kraftwerk as "early influencers" as they are so recent (historically speaking). I'm not familiar enough to know what they're influences they made, but perhaps someone else can elucidate on that. Patton is considered the "father of the Delta Blues" and that seems long overdue.
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    I found this bit about Kraftwerk from a January, 2020 Rolling Stone article on last year's inductees:

    Although the granddaddies of electronic rock, Kraftwerk, once again missed the cut — they’ve been nominated an astonishing six times without making it in — their influence is palpable among the artists who will be getting inducted this spring. Kraftwerk formed half a century ago in Düsseldorf and settled into lineup of four musicians who stood in a neat row and performed their mechanical masterpieces like robots — and it’s incredible. Synth music had already crossed over into pop territory in the Sixties with hit recordings by Wendy Carlos and Gershon Kingsley (“Popcorn”!), but it was Kraftwerk and a few of their peers who made that sound undeniably cool and a viable avenue for music creation in the Seventies. Even so, some artists resisted. For years, Queen included the words “no synths!” in their album credits, until new-wave became fashionable and they realized they could write a pretty great song like “Play the Game” with the help of machines.
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    Hope folks don't mind me amplifying some of this. This obituary for Heron gives me a better understanding of his influence.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2011/05/29/a...ies-at-62.html
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    Re: Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    I'm puzzled by Gil Scott Heron and Kraftwerk as "early influencers" as they are so recent (historically speaking). I'm not familiar enough to know what they're influences they made, but perhaps someone else can elucidate on that. Patton is considered the "father of the Delta Blues" and that seems long overdue.
    Basically every synth-pop song that came out in the 80s can trace its roots back to something Kraftwerk did.
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    My biggest problem with the use of synths in the eighties was that it became boring. It's like musicians (or likely record companies) caught on to this cool idea from ten years before and sapped the life out of it. Also, as a DJ in the latter part of the decade, records that began with synths were fragile when it came to cueing. There was one record (I can't remember which) we had to go to the store and buy new copies of constantly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    My biggest problem with the use of synths in the eighties was that it became boring. It's like musicians (or likely record companies) caught on to this cool idea from ten years before and sapped the life out of it. Also, as a DJ in the latter part of the decade, records that began with synths were fragile when it came to cueing. There was one record (I can't remember which) we had to go to the store and buy new copies of constantly.
    Corporations tend to do that with just about anything.
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    Re: Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Basically every synth-pop song that came out in the 80s can trace its roots back to something Kraftwerk did.
    Influential is a French word for "other people did better with their sound."

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    Re: Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    Quote Originally Posted by redsmetz View Post
    I found this bit about Kraftwerk from a January, 2020 Rolling Stone article on last year's inductees:

    Although the granddaddies of electronic rock, Kraftwerk, once again missed the cut — they’ve been nominated an astonishing six times without making it in — their influence is palpable among the artists who will be getting inducted this spring. Kraftwerk formed half a century ago in Düsseldorf and settled into lineup of four musicians who stood in a neat row and performed their mechanical masterpieces like robots — and it’s incredible. Synth music had already crossed over into pop territory in the Sixties with hit recordings by Wendy Carlos and Gershon Kingsley (“Popcorn”!), but it was Kraftwerk and a few of their peers who made that sound undeniably cool and a viable avenue for music creation in the Seventies. Even so, some artists resisted. For years, Queen included the words “no synths!” in their album credits, until new-wave became fashionable and they realized they could write a pretty great song like “Play the Game” with the help of machines.
    I had a GF that was really into them back then. But that wasn't her only fault (lol). I'm not into that electronic synth music. Drove me nuts. But to each his own. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by marcshoe View Post
    My biggest problem with the use of synths in the eighties was that it became boring.
    Yep. Seemed like it was the "in thing" at the time. IMO, it hurt Rush.
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    Re: Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    Influential is a French word for "other people did better with their sound."
    Like the Beatles?
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    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    Like the Beatles?
    Hmm, The Beatles or Kraftwerk...

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    For me, when ALL a band is is influential...what do we have?

    The Beatles were awesome, had success, and were influential.

    Kraftwerk is....Im not sure what Kraftwerk is.

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    Re: Rock & Roll HOF Inductees announced

    Quote Originally Posted by Dom Heffner View Post
    For me, when ALL a band is is influential...what do we have?

    The Beatles were awesome, had success, and were influential.

    Kraftwerk is....Im not sure what Kraftwerk is.
    Kraftwerk was/is awesome.

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