If the Reds decide to add it will be through more-aggressive promotions of guys like Santillan, Lodolo, Greene and Barrero. Maybe an outside relief arm.
If the Reds decide to add it will be through more-aggressive promotions of guys like Santillan, Lodolo, Greene and Barrero. Maybe an outside relief arm.
mth123 (06-01-2021)
I agree. I don't think adding should even be on the table. Look at the Louisville and Chattanooga rosters. Jose Barrero is the only position prospect on either roster and he's no sure thing. India has been disappointing (though I like his defense OK) and Senzel even more so. Stephenson has looked good, but his OPS is below .700. This team needs young controllable talent. Dealing Winker should not be a consideration, but dealing other shorter term guys to add young controllable position players (and pitchers) should be. They need a MI (an option to add to India/Barreroand an OF who can play CF or RF who are controllable, relatively cheap and ready to play (in addition to more pitching).
Castellanos, Miley, Garrett, Lorenzen, Barnhart, Naquin and Aquino should all benames they are willing to move to get what they need. Suarez and Castillo are at low points, unless there is an offer based on their 2019 or 2020 values, keep them. Votto and Moose probably are not tradeable.
This team needs longer term fixes and isn't good enough to use resources on short term band aids.
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Not much of a plan to wait until July 31 and let the team’s fortunes rise or fall on Castillo. That’s not a gamble I’d be willing to make, assuming I’m serious about a playoff run.
No, if Reds are serious about a playoff run, the time to act is soon, and the first position to pin down is SP.
REDREAD (06-06-2021)
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I'm fine with them buying by adding payroll. No way I sell any of Greene, Lodolo, Barrero or Hendricks though.
Nah, the SP is the most important player in the game. He comes first, not shortstop, not closer.
Three reliable SPs today cover 18 of 45 innings in a five-game cycle. That’s too many bullpen and BOR innings to sustain winning.
First, improve Reds’ shot at a well pitched start in 4 of 5 games. Then the rest can come.
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REDREAD (06-06-2021)
This normally is true. Normally a team that starts a good starting pitcher has good chance of winning that game. The starting pitcher can feel confident that if they do their job, the team likely will win.
But not with this current team. A starting pitcher numerous times has pitched a solid game only to see the team lose because of poor defense behind him, and/or a pen that implodes.
The Reds will never contend with this defense and this pen, no matter who is in the starting rotation.
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Coopdaddy67 (06-01-2021),mth123 (06-01-2021),REDREAD (06-06-2021),Sea Ray (06-01-2021)
Selling is logical and it saves money short-term.
But Bob C may not want another “rebuild.” He resisted it the first time. He’ll take a beating in the media. He won’t want the 90-loss seasons.
My guess is we’ll get a middle ground. Sell off some now, add some in the off-season.
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I’m entirely opposed to this team ever doing a “rebuild”/5 year cycle ever again, but I also think they should trade some established players to turn the team over when the moments right. I don’t think they’re doing much in 2022 or 23 while they wait for Greene and Lodolo to take their lumps (and work up their innings limits too, especially Greene coming off TJ followed by the covid year) so Winker is a great candidate to either extend now or trade now while he still has trade value. Castellanos is another obvious example. I think Gray could also be another great candidate for help the team reload for a better window. But they can sell some guys off without going into a full blown firesale rebuild. That’s just how you keep the pipeline stocked.
It's worth nothing that Story is having the worst year of his career and his OPS is just .670 away this year. Also are there really any contenders that are looking for a SS rental this year? I keep hearing the Yankees but ppl keep forgetting that the Yankees are just $2M under the luxury cap and would be a 3x offender this year with massive tax penalties. No way will they take his $18.5M contract prorated or not this year unless they can offload an equal amount of salary.
That being said his salary is also likely a strong no-go with this front office.
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