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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Yeah like specifically san-TEE-yen is how I always read it
    Same here. Here are the rules for pronunciation in Spanish:


    1. When a word without an accent mark ends in a vowel, n, or s, the stress is on the penultimate (second to last) syllable. The majority of Spanish words fall into this category.

    Examples: leche, niña, zapatos, comen


    2. For words without accent marks that end in any consonant other than n or s, the emphasis is placed on the last syllable.

    Examples: hotel, hablar, gratitud, medium


    3. If a word’s pronunciation deviates from the above two rules, an accent is placed over the vowel of the syllable where the stress is placed.

    Examples: común, lápiz, médico, inglés, ojalá


    According to the rules, an accent should be over the first "a" to get the correct pronunciation: "Sántillan". However, many Latino families who have lived in the U.S. for a long time and have become assimilated into American culture often ignore the accent rules, and write their names without the accents, even though they are still pronounced as such. I don't know if Santillan normally writes his name with or without the accent -- I guess we'll find out.
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    if the Cardinals lose tonight's game, they'll be tied with the Reds for 3rd place

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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Just noticed Wade Miley has a higher BA than the beloved Farmer. Oh my.
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    Same here. Here are the rules for pronunciation in Spanish:


    1. When a word without an accent mark ends in a vowel, n, or s, the stress is on the penultimate (second to last) syllable. The majority of Spanish words fall into this category.

    Examples: leche, niña, zapatos, comen


    2. For words without accent marks that end in any consonant other than n or s, the emphasis is placed on the last syllable.

    Examples: hotel, hablar, gratitud, medium


    3. If a word’s pronunciation deviates from the above two rules, an accent is placed over the vowel of the syllable where the stress is placed.

    Examples: común, lápiz, médico, inglés, ojalá


    According to the rules, an accent should be over the first "a" to get the correct pronunciation: "Sántillan".
    I’ll also admit something really goofy on my part -

    I guess I just never saw a picture of him or just had not for a long time or something, or ever bothered looking up his full name, but for some reason I thought that was an Italian name lmao

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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    I’ll also admit something really goofy on my part -

    I guess I just never saw a picture of him or just had not for a long time or something, or ever bothered looking up his full name, but for some reason I thought that was an Italian name lmao
    Santillan is from Arlington, Texas, and graduated from Seguin High School -- named for Juan Seguín, a hero in the Texas Revolution. (Notice that Seguín's name uses the accent, but the school named for him does not.)
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Okay so now the non-Welsh postgame guy actually said Santillan the way I thought it was pronounced. I trust this guy over Sadak tbh.

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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    I was listening while sanding and staining my dumb stairwell. What a game. I kinda want them to trade Miley at the deadline but also kinda want them to extend him through the rest of his career. I absolutely love the pace of play and he has a funny face that reminds me of a dude I used to by mushrooms from.
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Wonderful Monds View Post
    Okay so now the non-Welsh postgame guy actually said Santillan the way I thought it was pronounced. I trust this guy over Sadak tbh.
    Baseball-reference.com has it pronounced the way Sadak was pronouncing it.
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Big Klu View Post
    Baseball-reference.com has it pronounced the way Sadak was pronouncing it.
    Game notes for the announcers as well as others in the media regularly include phonetic spelling of new or unusual names. I'd be shocked if Santillan wasn't included in that list.
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    Re: 6-12-21 Reds vs Rockies 4:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by WrongVerb View Post
    Game notes for the announcers as well as others in the media regularly include phonetic spelling of new or unusual names. I'd be shocked if Santillan wasn't included in that list.
    Several years ago, i had to provide phonetic spellings to the media for our local high school football team when they made the OHSAA playoffs. Most of them were easy, but our best offensive lineman (he eventually played at Mount Union) had a Greek last name. (Five syllables!) It took a while for me to figure out how to get it just right, and to get the stressed syllable in the right place!
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