mth123 (07-17-2021),RedTeamGo! (07-17-2021),Ron Madden (07-17-2021),Wonderful Monds (07-17-2021)
while redteamgo has a point that reds fans were wondering when the team was finally going to get in the market for japanese players, i do not recall anyone pining for the reds to greatly overpay some judy hitter who is over the age of 30.
Career .454 slugging % in NPB with 112 home runs.
I don’t understand, do people not pay attention to teams outside of Cincinnati? Teams give Japanese players moderately large contracts. MANY of them cover over and fail at the plate. The reds tried. It hasn’t worked out. I legitimately do not understand the point of constantly *****ing about it.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Because a team with limited resources needs to spend guaranteed money on less questionable stuff than some one who has never played in the big leagues. I felt the same way when they signed Alf and went immediately into the penalty phase. If the Reds were committed to seeing it through and spending to get what they need in spite of the failures, gambles like that would be viewed differently. Maybe they were at the time and the pandemic changed everything. I think spending several million on international signing last winter was a bad move when they couldn't afford a reliever or two. That's where the reallocated money went.
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REDREAD (07-20-2021)
The pandemic absolutely changed everything. I get people want to complain about ownership not spending, but there was zero income last year from ticket sales and concessions. That is why they didn’t spend this offseason, not because of $7 million going to Shogo.
I have absolutely no idea what AlfRod has to do with this. Apples and oranges.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Ron Madden (07-17-2021),westofyou (07-17-2021)
Ron Madden (07-17-2021),Tom Servo (07-17-2021)
Dick Williams made it a priority to get into the Asian market, specifically Japan. He swung and missed on Ohtani. He went hard after Shogo, who I know people don’t want to admit it, was a hot commodity the offseason before 2020. There was mini bidding war for him. I guarantee if the reds had swung and missed on him they would have been absolutely killed on here for it.
At the end of the day the Reds put their money where their mouth was. It hasn’t worked out. Life goes on.
What would you say.....ya do here?
Ron Madden (07-17-2021),Tom Servo (07-17-2021)
Here’s a hypothetical:
Let’s say some team called the reds prior to 2021 season and said “we love Shogo. We will take his entire contract over and give you a lottery ticket” and the reds took it.
Do you, honestly, think in that scenario the Reds would have altered their “plan” for the 2021 bullpen whatsoever?
I think it’s very obvious they would not have and just pocketed that money as well.
What would you say.....ya do here?
KronoRed (07-17-2021)
KronoRed (07-17-2021),RedTeamGo! (07-17-2021),Ron Madden (07-17-2021)
RedTeamGo! (07-17-2021)
Is "pocketed that money" the correct term? The Reds are cheap, no doubt. But periodically, like prior to 2020 season, they spend. It's like they look at their available money over a period of years rather than annually. Instead of unloading salaries and immediately spending it, they bank it and wait for a period of seasons of savings before unloading it again.
The Reds strategy seems to be keeping their fans happy by putting crappy teams on the field for a period of years and then unloading the saved money to try and make them competitive for a short period of time. In this case, it looks like they are trying to stretch a period of competitiveness rather than going all in for one season.
Last year wasn't just a feeling of generosity but more of let's unload what we've saved for the past 6 years.
REDREAD (07-20-2021)
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