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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    The fact that we've won games without Nick is amazing. For all the moaning and groaning, this team is pretty good with the notable absence of hurt key players like Moose, Antone and Sims, not to mention Nick and others. All we need is a reliable bullpen. Are you listening BCast and Krall?
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Wasn't home tonight, and just finished watching the replay.


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    Reds 100-Home Run Club
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    2. Frank Robinson - 324
    3. Joey Votto - 308
    4. Tony Pérez - 287
    5. Adam Dunn - 270
    6. Ted Kluszewski - 251
    7. George Foster - 244
    8. Jay Bruce - 233
    9. Ken Griffey, Jr. - 210
    10. Eric Davis - 203
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    17. Pete Rose - 152
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    20. Dan Driessen - 133
    21. Reggie Sanders - 125
    22. Ernie Lombardi - 120
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    What people don't realize pitchers are now trained at 100 pitches for several years before they ever reach the majors. Why risk injury or ask a guy to do something he has never or seldom ever done throw 110 plus pitches?
    The other thing, is that when guys were throwing 150+ pitches back in the day, they were making peanuts and if they blew their arms out, the owners didn't care. Guys are making money now, and they are investments, so they try to protect their arms.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Ironman92 View Post
    And our defensive play of the year was missed by our cameraman
    Was in the park last night. Just now watched the replay. The camera does not begin to do justice on how great that catch was.

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    7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by M2 View Post
    It makes sense not to ask them to dig deep too often. 107 pitches is no big deal, but if a guy gets out to and past 120 that's a hefty check to write on his arm, especially given how they air it out these days. Johan Santana effectively melted his arm with a 134-pitch no-hitter. He already was rich and accomplished. I'm sure he'd do it again, but there wasn't much left in his well after that night. He had a 2.38 ERA through 11 games after that game. He'd pitch another 10 games, totaling 49 IP, with an 8.27 ERA in those games.
    I'm pretty sure that one outing was not the primary cause of his demise. If his arm was in that fragile a state, the demise was inevitable.

    The other point is that it is just as destructive for so many max effort pitching, "airing it out" is a bigger problem than pitch counts. Better mechanics, less effort, go deeper into ballgames...airing it out is a paradigm shift that the game is not better for it.
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