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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by TheBigLebowski View Post
    I really have no clue what the hell your point is. Seems like you wrote a dumb post trying to play devil’s advocate, it blew up on you and now you’re backpedaling by executing straw men. And that’s on you.
    All I literally said was that it's not that ridiculous for a pitcher to give up hits to Arenado and Goldschmidt.

    What do you disagree about in that comment?


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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    when you're a slave to pitch counts...managers talk about gut, but they will not use judgment to let a starter go a little deeper depending on the situation. Castillo was cruising, three straight low stress innings, two stress innings all game, LEAVE HIM IN.
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Can Hembree pitch again tonight?
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    When did Gant go to the pen?

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    when you're a slave to pitch counts...managers talk about gut, but they will not use judgment to let a starter go a little deeper depending on the situation. Castillo was cruising, three straight low stress innings, two stress innings all game, LEAVE HIM IN.
    This!!!
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
    Can Hembree pitch again tonight?
    19 pitches last night so he should be good. Had two days off before.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    All I literally said was that it's not that ridiculous for a pitcher to give up hits to Arenado and Goldschmidt.

    What do you disagree about in that comment?
    There’s no point in going further with it. Post of mine you quoted was removed, by me, and I apologize for being snitty.
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    Brach didn't have it tonight. He took a beating. But I don't blame Bell one bit for sticking with him. Outside of Hembree the rest of the options are bad.
    And he can't pitch Hembree multiple innings.
    Disagree... you can get 4 outs off of Hembree in a game you are winning... In a high leverage situation, who do you want on the hill???
    (L-R matchups be dammed)

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    when you're a slave to pitch counts...managers talk about gut, but they will not use judgment to let a starter go a little deeper depending on the situation. Castillo was cruising, three straight low stress innings, two stress innings all game, LEAVE HIM IN.
    And Bell would get hung by media by fans by everyone if one of the top 4 starters went down with injury. If he let them throw 120 plus pitches. Not how baseball is played anymore. You can disagree with it but those are facts. 60 games last year. No manager is going to let guys throw 120 pitches. They just aren't.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    when you're a slave to pitch counts...managers talk about gut, but they will not use judgment to let a starter go a little deeper depending on the situation. Castillo was cruising, three straight low stress innings, two stress innings all game, LEAVE HIM IN.
    Itís a long season with lots of starts left. Bullpen has to do their job.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by George Foster View Post
    This!!!
    I agree but I think managers are way too obsessed with PC anyway. He had a lot of easy now stress pitches tonight and think he was find another inning. Plus, leaving the starter in you eliminate the 3 batter deal so if he clearly has lost it you can yank him. Then again, Brach clearly had nothing and Bell didn't care so probably irrelevant.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Let's Schrock

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Just unreal no-one gets Shogo to stay in the fricken box instead of bailing out on every. single. swing.
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf_Red_E View Post
    Disagree... you can get 4 outs off of Hembree in a game you are winning... In a high leverage situation, who do you want on the hill???
    (L-R matchups be dammed)
    You can't use Hembree multiple innings. You will have him on the IL and be left with nothing. That is the very reason Sims and Antone are out now. Bell was forced to overuse them earlier in the season.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    And Bell would get hung by media by fans by everyone if one of the top 4 starters went down with injury. If he let them throw 120 plus pitches. Not how baseball is played anymore. You can disagree with it but those are facts. 60 games last year. No manager is going to let guys throw 120 pitches. They just aren't.
    slave to pitch counts, which are arbitrary limits that has become an accepted norm anecdotally.
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