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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Between a Schrock and a hard place
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Being a good pitch framer is a game changer with umps like this. Wow.
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    I will say that the Reds are not a boring team.
    You are standing at the end of a road before a small brick building. Around you is a forest. A small stream flows out of the building and down a gully.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by VR View Post
    Just unreal no-one gets Shogo to stay in the fricken box instead of bailing out on every. single. swing.
    It's almost impossible for him to pull a ball with his swing. It's ok to pull a pitch on the inner 3rd. With him bailing out, he'll hit it weakly to the left side.
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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Schrock schtruck out schlooking.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    slave to pitch counts, which are arbitrary limits that has become an accepted norm anecdotally.
    Like I said disagree if you want. Not how baseball is played anymore. Heck going back at least 10 years now 100 pitches has pretty much been the limit. And after a 60 schedule last year I am surprised it is not 80.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Tadasimha View Post
    Between a Schrock and a hard place
    Schrock me gently.
    Now begins the winter of our discombobulation.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    You can't use Hembree multiple innings. You will have him on the IL and be left with nothing. That is the very reason Sims and Antone are out now. Bell was forced to overuse them earlier in the season.
    I don't see asking for 4 outs as that much of a stretch fro asking for 3 outs... especilly after watching Brach getting hammered. I'm happy Doolittle did the job, but I just think, if he wouldn't use him in the 9th, why use him in the 8th with the bases loaded. I'd say use your best pitchers in the highest leverage situations.

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by UPRedsFan View Post
    Itís a long season with lots of starts left. Bullpen has to do their job.
    I'm living in the theoretical, but tonite was a classic example of the pitch count not telling the whole story. Overexposed bullpens are rampant right now.
    "Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by NebraskaRed View Post
    Schrock schtruck out schlooking.
    Schit

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by traderumor View Post
    when you're a slave to pitch counts...managers talk about gut, but they will not use judgment to let a starter go a little deeper depending on the situation. Castillo was cruising, three straight low stress innings, two stress innings all game, LEAVE HIM IN.
    That "100" spooks the hell out of guys like Bell who don't realize it's a meaningless figure.
    Rounding third and heading for home...

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    one more out to go!

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by KeefeCato View Post
    Like I said disagree if you want. Not how baseball is played anymore. Heck going back at least 10 years now 100 pitches has pretty much been the limit. And after a 60 schedule last year I am surprised it is not 80.
    but is it a valid strategy for all? Automaton managers just do it because that is the current accepted practice, thoughtlessly.
    "Rounding 3rd and heading for home, good night everybody"

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    Re: 7-24-21 Reds vs Cardinals 7:10pm

    Quote Originally Posted by Alf_Red_E View Post
    I don't see asking for 4 outs as that much of a stretch fro asking for 3 outs... especilly after watching Brach getting hammered. I'm happy Doolittle did the job, but I just think, if he wouldn't use him in the 9th, why use him in the 8th with the bases loaded. I'd say use your best pitchers in the highest leverage situations.
    I actually think Hembree in the 8th to get that out would have been a good move. But who pitches the 9th? Because no way was Bell going to let Hembree get warm in the 8th. Sit down get cold and come back out in the 9th. Relievers are much different than starters. Most don't do well when they have pitched one inning most of there career's then are asked to pitch more than one inning. It all boils down to this pen sucks and it needs help. Can't burn out only reliable arm.


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